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<>This translates to 60,000 to 100,000 a year for physicians if we go single-payer.<>
I would guess one of the key differences is who pays for the doctor and nurse educations. For a ten year stretch they have paid tuition of $40,000 a year and lived like slaves. No one is going to do that for an end game of $100,000. My podiatrist and his associates spent a cool million setting up shop in a rented building.
In Europe the people pay huge taxes to fund all that.
I would guess one of the key differences is who pays for the doctor and nurse educations. For a ten year stretch they have paid tuition of $40,000 a year and lived like slaves. No one is going to do that for an end game of $100,000. My podiatrist and his associates spent a cool million setting up shop in a rented building.
In Europe the people pay huge taxes to fund all that.
And why would be that? Medical school is 4 years, last time I checked.
About the huge taxes: the grand total spend for HC is much less than here, got it?
Really? There must be HUGE shortages of doctors in Germany then. OMG. Here in the US we have 2.3 doctors per 1,000 people. Germany must be insane! I mean.....oh. Maybe not. Looks like they have 3.4 doctors per 1,000 people. Huh.
Maybe we should figure out hat they are doing, and do that.
It's not a question of if you could get someone to go through all that schooling and BS for $100K, it's who you could get to do it. How many highly intelligent people that can be just about anything they want to be will turn to something else without a pot of gold at the end?
And why would be that? Medical school is 4 years, last time I checked.
There is 3 or4 years of undergraduate study before that and medical school is followed by 3 to 7 years of residency. It's not an easy path to become a doctor by any means.
...Germany must be insane! I mean.....oh. Maybe not. Looks like they have 3.4 doctors per 1,000 people. Huh.
Maybe we should figure out hat they are doing, and do that.
Nah, we can't be doing that! That there them Germans are all atheist commie radical socialists. Old Europe! The dustbin of history. Plus, they have nude beaches, and have sex outside of marriage. And their drinking-age is in the teens, or something like that. They're all immoral over there, you know....
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Originally Posted by thecoalman
It's not a question of if you could get someone to go through all that schooling and BS for $100K, it's who you could get to do it. How many highly intelligent people that can be just about anything they want to be will turn to something else without a pot of gold at the end?
Perhaps, it would be better if persons would go into medicine, because they're interested in medicine - rather than in money? Maybe I'm a bit daft and un-American, but I'd rather be treated by people who derive personal satisfaction from healing the sick, rather than those who just happened to select the most remunerative field.
Perhaps, it would be better if persons would go into medicine, because they're interested in medicine - rather than in money?
I'm sure many of them do and will continue to do it but let's be real here. Most that go onto be doctors could already make far more had they entered other fields with far less work. Lowering the pay even further isn't exactly an incentive...
Take Wall Street for example, they suck up a huge amount of talent. I'm not referring to business majors and lawyers either, I'm talking about mathematicians and others with very high IQ's. They could very easily have chosen to help solve the world's problems but instead chose to make millions a year.
Why would anyone go into one of the most difficult and demanding fields and put in the crazy hours for that kind of money? Just go into teaching, have 1/3 of the year off and work far fewer hours a day for the same money. With no one dying and no accountability if you fail.
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