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Old 02-27-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I did just that. It is wonderful!
So, where did you move to?
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I did just that. It is wonderful!
Great for you. I think red states should eliminate all their local taxes in an effort to woo more like you.
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Millionaires from Russia to Norway and the U.S. are seeking to take advantage of Italy’s low tax rates for the super rich.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-official-says

Smart move. Countries are starting to understand you can't just use wealthy people as a cash cow. Overtax them and they will find another country who doesn't.
Per your link, 150 people have shown interest.
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:41 PM
 
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Ah threads like this warm my heart and remind me of Denise Rich.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denise...dential_pardon

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Marc Rich received a pardon from U.S. President Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001, Clinton's last day in office.[14][22] The pardon became controversial after reports surfaced that Denise Rich had made donations totalling more than one million dollars to the Democratic Party and the William J. Clinton Presidential Center and Park.[14][22] At a congressional hearing into whether the pardon was granted in exchange for her contributions, Rich invoked the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which denies the government power to compel self-incrimination.[14][22]

In what was widely speculated to be an attempt to avoid paying US taxes,[23][24] Rich renounced her U.S. citizenship in November 2011 and became an Austrian citizen.[25]

In April 2013, as part of the Offshore leaks tax evasion scandal, financial records were released that showed that Denise Rich in April 2006 had USD 144 million protected from scrutiny by the Cook Islands in the South Pacific in the form of a trust including a Learjet 60 and a 157-foot yacht called the "Lady Joy".[
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It's absolutely not 27% for just FIT.
Yes it is. Marginal Federal Income Tax rate: 39.6%. Effective Federal Income Tax rate: over 27%.

Guess why the latter is less than the former.

I believe you could also ask ohwanderlust if she and her spouse only paid a 12% effective Federal Income Tax rate.
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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It's absolutely not 27% for just FIT. I'll leave it to you figure out why.

But, from the site you chose to use:

T17-0039 - Average Effective Federal Tax Rates - All Tax Units, By Expanded Cash Income Income Level, 2016 | Tax Policy Center

Frankly, you can keep trying to nitpick, but the fact remains, removing all state & local taxes would be a bigger tax savings for almost every American than moving to another country. I'm waiting for Conservatives to lead the way.
Except this thread is discussing the ultra wealthy.

You can't take your personal wealth out of the USA without paying the exit tax I linked to earlier, if you're ultra wealthy. Or even if you're just entry level wealthy.

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Old 02-27-2018, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Yes it is. Marginal Federal Income Tax rate: 39.6%. Effective Federal Income Tax rate: over 27%.

Guess why the latter is less than the former.

I believe you could also ask ohwanderlust if she and her spouse only paid a 12% effective Federal Income Tax rate.
Why don't you look at the link I included and let me know where you find the 27% figure.
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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And lest anyone thinks the top 0.1% pays any less, their average effective Federal Income Tax rate is about 1/2 percent higher at almost 28%.
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why don't you look at the link I included and let me know where you find the 27% figure.
I did better. Instead of that, I posted a link to the IRS's data.
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:57 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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More info, if you don't feel like slogging through the IRS's spreadsheets:

Who pays what average effective Federal Income Tax rate, by income level

Data source: IRS, of course
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