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Old 02-28-2018, 07:15 AM
 
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I guess the left is not as patient as the right. The right can rehash the same thing over and over again and never tire.
The hyper partisans on both sides are to blame. Both are completely detached from reality. I like how people like you throw rocks from your glass houses like you are some how above the other side when you are exactly like them but you can't see that because you are dug into the game.

Reality is the hyper partisans on both sides are wrong whether it be the birthers or red scare leftists or whatever the topic of the day might be.

Best to stand back and view it all from afar.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Release The Hookers!
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:11 AM
 
Location: moved
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"This is why what took place behind Rybka’s back on Oleg Deripaska’s yacht is not bribery. It’s a political conspiracy to influence specific international events, which the Russian state organises with money from businesses dependent on it."
I wouldn’t even call it “conspiracy”; it’s just an extension of statecraft by unofficial means. The whole system there consists of a web of interdependencies, exchange of favors, patronage and graft. Refusal to play along, is tantamount to treason. Personal loyalty is conflated with national patriotism; this has been the case in Russia for centuries, long before the American founding-fathers were born. While the British were haggling over their Magna Carta, the Russians were building a system of personal autocracy, bolstered by an ever-shifting cavalcade of satraps. That hasn’t changed, regardless of the professed ideology in vogue at any given time.

Where this connects with modern American politics, has less to do with hookers or salacious gossip or blackmail, than with the new emerging ethos of what it means to rule.
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Old 02-28-2018, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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"In a letter to the US consul seen by The Telegraph, Ms Vashukevich's partner, Alexander Kirillov, claims Ms Vashukevich had been Mr Deripaska's “mistress” for a year and alleges she has “important information” about the “crimes” of the Russian government."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ies-us-asylum/


If the US doesn't grant her asylum she will be deported to Russia in 48 hours and never heard from again.

I wonder if Trump personally has stepped forward to ensure she doesn't speak.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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I believe she made a mistake if she had anything incriminating. She should have stepped forward with whatever she had and this would have allowed Mueller to call her as a witness. Without knowing if she has something, he has no good reason to prevent her from disappearing into the Putin controlled injustice system.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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So the whole Russian collusion evidence has come down to 2 drunks in a bar and a Russian hooker with secrets. Should we be expecting some ground breaking news from the Pink Panther?
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Old 03-02-2018, 03:38 AM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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So the whole Russian collusion evidence has come down to 2 drunks in a bar and a Russian hooker with secrets. Should we be expecting some ground breaking news from the Pink Panther?
Well the NYT certainly just wrote a long piece on this story.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/0....html?referer=

Reading between the lines seems they are suggesting to hear her out before she is lost into the Russian prison system.
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Actually the NYT published two articles in quick succession.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/0....html?referer=
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:41 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Trump is covered in filth. It will all be coming out soon.
You've been saying that for over a year now. If there were any truth to these salacious lies, we wouldn't still be waiting.

Just curious ...were you as concerned about Bill Clinton's proven sexual misconduct? No need to answer.
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:46 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Trump and prostitutes is pretty redundant at the moment. Although, untreated syphilis does drive people mad. Well, maybe there’s a reason for Trump’s mental state after all.
This is so childish.

Trump's "mental state" has been proven to be just fine by a real doctor. You can keep throwing accusations, but you aren't a doctor; you're just a bitter loser who cannot come to grips with reality. Get over it. You're just making a fool of yourself.
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