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Good point, so that means you may have to reduce the rate of fire even further to reduce the lethality rate. Because that's the ultimate goal right? We all agree about that.
No, the "ultimate goal" is to keep firearms out of the hands of murderers without infringing rights for law abiding.
This whole issue of things like bump stocks and "other" gun accessories are a red herring. Only one instance of the use of the bump stock has been used in a mass killing. Las Vegas.
If anyone thinks the bump stock made a difference in that shooting and are jumping on the ban guns band wagon. A full automatic weapon like a AR-16 or an AK-47 doesn't require a bump stock to fire continuously however they are limited in the number of shots per trigger squeeze. A fully automatic is illegal to buy, sell or own.
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Bump-fire stocks do not turn semi-automatic firearms into fully automatic firearms. A fully automatic firearm will continue to fire so long as the trigger is depressed, whereas a semi-automatic firearm will only fire once each time the trigger is depressed. Instead, bump-fire stocks use the recoil of the firearm to significantly increase how quickly the shooter can pull the trigger.
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"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) approved the manufacture and sale of bump-fire devices during the Obama administration," Baker said. "The NRA has called for the ATF to review its decision and determine whether these devices should be regulated differently. Despite the false assertions being made by anti-gun politicians and lobbyists, this is within ATF's regulatory authority."
You make a good point, I always listen carefully to the gun experts on here. This illustrates that any new gun law needs to address one thing only - and that is the rate of fire capable by the weapon system. Not the type of gun, not bump stocks - but rate of fire. There are all sorts of innovative ways to do that, but essentially the gun becomes incapable of firing another round within a certain amount of time. Can easily be accomplished with smart gun technology. And it can be done mechanically as well.
Please explain how you can do that. Once the bolt carrier cycles and locks back in place with a fresh round, you are ready to go. You can slow it down by fractions of a second using heavier bolts or stronger springs but this is used mechanical issues and it really only slows things down by hundredths of a second.
Good point, so that means you may have to reduce the rate of fire even further to reduce the lethality rate. Because that's the ultimate goal right? We all agree about that.
No, we don't. I think we all agree on making sure there are less innocent victims, we certainly don't agree that the answer is random solutions to cripple random weapons that will have tons of workarounds to bypass them.
This whole issue of things like bump stocks and "other" gun accessories are a red herring. Only one instance of the use of the bump stock has been used in a mass killing. Las Vegas.
If anyone thinks the bump stock made a difference in that shooting and are jumping on the ban guns band wagon. A full automatic weapon like a AR-16 or an AK-47 doesn't require a bump stock to fire continuously however they are limited in the number of shots per trigger squeeze. A fully automatic is illegal to buy, sell or own.
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What is the difference in the rate of fire between an AR-15 with a bump stock and an M-16? Do you know?
This whole issue of things like bump stocks and "other" gun accessories are a red herring. Only one instance of the use of the bump stock has been used in a mass killing. Las Vegas.
If anyone thinks the bump stock made a difference in that shooting and are jumping on the ban guns band wagon. A full automatic weapon like a AR-16 or an AK-47 doesn't require a bump stock to fire continuously however they are limited in the number of shots per trigger squeeze. A fully automatic is illegal to buy, sell or own.
Good point, so that means you may have to reduce the rate of fire even further to reduce the lethality rate. Because that's the ultimate goal right? We all agree about that.
That is the opposite of what he said.
What are you referring to rate of fire for? These arent automatic weapons.
I was filing sears in the mid-1960s. The one I found that worked the best was a Remington Nylon 66.
The problem being that a lot if not most actions on sporting rifles are too long to work more than a couple of rounds without jamming. Fully auto rifles and pistols have much shorter bolt travel.
Not only is that an ignorant thing to do and doesn't accomplish the intended goal, it's also illegal.
You make a good point, I always listen carefully to the gun experts on here. This illustrates that any new gun law needs to address one thing only - and that is the rate of fire capable by the weapon system. Not the type of gun, not bump stocks - but rate of fire. There are all sorts of innovative ways to do that, but essentially the gun becomes incapable of firing another round within a certain amount of time. Can easily be accomplished with smart gun technology. And it can be done mechanically as well.
Here we go again.
"Smart guns" are not reliable. Not that that bothers the gun-grabbers.
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