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Old 03-01-2018, 09:07 AM
 
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In the DFW area, at least, the vast majority of the growth is in the ultra-conservative suburbs - not Dallas. Conservatives rule the rural and suburban areas, Democrats rule the cities (except Ft. Worth) which would be great for Democrats if it weren't a fact that Texas is a rural and suburban state. Texas will continue to look like little islands of blue surrounded by a sea of red. And the red is more than tumbleweeds and cows - it's where the majority of Texans live.


Texas will continue to grow and gain electoral votes, but it won't turn purple or blue for a very long time, if ever.
Two out of three Texans 19 or younger are minorities. Keep whistling past the graveyard.

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/06...se-generation/
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:08 AM
 
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I agree with the OP 100% based on personal experience here in North Carolina.

I have to say.
  • Here in the Charlotte metro the roads are perpetually clogged with new people arriving every single day from the NE and West coast.
  • They can't build mass transit & roads fast enough.
  • Houses sell as soon as they are listed and above asking price.
  • New construction everywhere.
  • North Carolina is guaranteed to score another electoral vote after 2020.
And NC will be voting Red for the foreseeable future for any national seat.
Fine with all these points but how on earth do you know NC will vote red only? Not buying that.. It was blue in 2008 and 2012
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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The writing is on the wall... The GOP is doomed.
That's what I heard from 2008-10. Never regain house, never win presidency, doooooooooomed.

Thanks for the comedy relief.
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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The influx of people might turn those areas blue.
Precisely. Unless the influx is a mass of retirees, the influx is moving to where the jobs and opportunities are: the cities. Cities are almost always more liberal than rural areas, regardless of the state.

The OP should be careful what they wish for. As cities grow, the liberal city populations might eventually overwhelm the conservative rural populations, turning the red state into a blue state. Colorado was a red state 20 years ago; now it is mainly blue because of fast-growing Denver. Fast-growing red states like Texas and North Carolina might flip to blue in a decade or two.
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:16 AM
 
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Trump is the best thing that ever happened to Democrats (and by extension blue states).
I wish I had your cheery outlook. That's like being happy about getting possibly fatal disease because at least you're losing weight!

Meanwhile, he's passing legislation.

Also, apparently you're either deluded or not serious when you claim he's "causing permanent damage" because here you are happy.

Lastly, Trump is such a bombastic singular figure he's going to be much easier to separate from that just another figure. He also fights with the GOP establishment and prominent figures. They're going to have an easier time separating from him in 2018 and 2020 that you'd be capable of admitting to.
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:18 AM
 
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Did you have a point?
As I stated in my earlier post: one should not draw conclusions about political parties based on such surveys. I do not, for instance, think that Republicans are, as a group, less educated than Democrats, although some Democrats would, out of malice, post my link about the 'least educated states', and gleefully point to how they are mainly 'red states'. There are, obviously, many factors that go into such reports, with political persuasion probably not one of the factors.


Hence, (as I said) I believe one should not be drawn into the OP's apparent claim about "Red States Dominant" in the last of fast-growing cities, and making the conclusion that it proves some sort of superiority of Republicans over Democrats (or other political parties). There are many factors, with political leaning probably not being a significant factor in these cities growth.


Again, a malicious Democrat could start a thread showing that the top ten states in suicide rates are mainly 'Red' states (only Oregon, I believe, out of the 10, would be considered Blue):


https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...tes-in-us.html




I would reject any assertion that Republicans in these states are more prone to suicide than Democrats in other states. I would bet that political standing has nothing to do with it. More than likely, drug usage, alcoholism, financial woes (looking at Nevada), and lack of mental health care are deciding factors.


In summary, I have cited other 'surveys' to show how idiotic I think it is to look at some such chart, and try to claim some superiority of one political party over another.
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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Fine with all these points but how on earth do you know NC will vote red only? Not buying that.. It was blue in 2008 and 2012
Nope.

NC voted for Romney in 2012.

And The Democrat Senator elected with Obama is now a GOP Senator in what was the most expensive Senate race in US History. Democrats badly wanted to keep it.

Of course Hillary got her pantsuit beaten off here. It wasn't for lack of trying either. This in a state that DID for for a Democrat for governor.
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:34 AM
 
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Hence, (as I said) I believe one should not be drawn into the OP's apparent claim about "Red States Dominant" in the last of fast-growing cities,

Again, a malicious Democrat could start a thread showing that the top ten states in suicide rates are mainly 'Red' states (only Oregon, I believe, out of the 10, would be considered Blue): .
The first statement is a fact. One can come to one's own opinion on what it means.

In regards to your second statement, you realize you just called yourself a malicious Democrat. (you shouldn't be too hard on yourself) It's an fallacious point anyway to the topic at hand.
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:22 AM
 
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Sure, but they're being made more blue in the process.
Yes, red states are attracting blue-state voters. But they don't stay red.
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:51 AM
 
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Sorry I offended your liberal ideals.
You didn't offend my liberal ideals, but you did offend my preference for unbiased data analysis.
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