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he lost the popular vote by more then any president in history. He won by focusing on the electoral states better then Clinton did, and he won those by a mere 80,000 votes.
This is unlikely to be repeated.
Well sure, if you count illegal aliens, and dead people who all seem to vote democrat...
Nonsense! A "friendly divorce" along the lines of the former Czechoslovakia would make a lot more sense. and since both sides of the dispute are convinced they have a better way, it's time to put our futures where our mouths are.
But if the Blue "Mentality"(?) is convinced it should rule the roost and hold the more-productive regions captive, there would be plenty of opportunities for resistance.
I have no problem with the idea of a friendly divorce, obviously that would be the best option. We conservatives have no problem with that. However liberals by thier nature will not leave us alone. They intend, as they have been doing to force us to live the way they think we should. Abortion and gay marriage were forced upon us illegally and unconstitutionally by the courts. Our founding fathers wisely spelled out the role of the federal government in the constitution and defined the rights of states in the 10th amendment. This was done so diverse states could have laws reflecting thier own values all while cooperating with the other American states through the federal government for the common good of the nation. Liberals refuse to respect this constitutional relationship. If they were willing to let us be we would not be in this situation to begin with.
Have you ever heard of a red state conservative who pushes to stop a gay marriage in Massachusetts or stop a legal pot smoker in Seattle? We support states rights and feel it is thier right to have those laws even if we find them repulsive. In fact I would fight a war to protect thier constitutional right to make thier own laws. Liberals feel so strongly that we are just ignorant backward hicks in need of enlightenment that they feel justified in violating our constitutional rights. If they don’t live down here then it is not thier business if we marry gays, have legal dope or allow abortion. I don’t really care about thier 14th amendment “equal protection clause” justication as that can obviously be used to usher in special rights and protections for any liberal darling group being as vague as the equal protection clause is. Liberals love to look at the constitution as a living document full of grey areas for thier courts to make judgements on.
Conservatives expect the constitution to be followed as it is written, that includes all of the bill of rights. We will not give up our free speech, guns and we expect our states to make laws reflecting our values as the 10 amendment prescribes. I am willing to see a civil war to ensure my gauranteed rights are protected, even if they can only be saved in my part of the country. If the north doesn’t want freedom anymore that is thier business but I am not giving mine up. It would be up to the liberal states to decide whether to fight or not as we are not the ones demanding they live our way, THEY are placing the demands on us. Ideally we all would go back to living by our constitution and avoid a tragic civil war to begin with.
1/3rd of millennials are living with their parents. millennials can remain on their parent's insurance policies until 26 years old. these millennial adults are called 'kids' regularly in the press. millennials are not marrying like previous generations, marriage is at a record low, choosing to prolong childhood instead.
it is going to be an interesting next couple of decades, regardless of party in power, because millennial's parents soon will no longer be around to financially care for these infantized adults.
i'm not surprised a large portion of millennials are 'liberal' and want big government (income producing federal taxpayers) to support them and want to move towards democratic socialism. lack of personal financial responsibility is what a huge number of them are used to.....sadly.
And when MANY of those young-people get older, they will see how most liberal policies does not work when the-rubber-hits-the-road and flee that way of thinking.
According to this data every generation other than the silents is more democratic than republican. If this is true not only should Trump not be in the White House but congress should be liberal and so should most state houses. This poll is a lefties fantasy. No different than polls suggesting Americans suddenly are pro gay.....even though I know very few people who are pro gay. The only place I ever see hard core libs is on this forum and on my TV making trouble somewhere. They are simply a loud squeaky problem for society, thier noise level is far greater than thier real presence.
You are forgetting that we do not have proportionate representation- we have House members elected by district, Senators by state and a President by Electoral College. Trump lost the popular vote even when winning the EC. And there have been recent elections where Ds won more house votes across the country but Rs won more seats because of the distribution of voters/districts.
One thing that did not seem to get mentioned is that older voters are still more likely to vote than younger- so that also helps whichever group has attracted more support among senior citizens.
And if you would like to run a national campaign proudly based on being anti-gay please proceed... One thing that should not be discounted is that Trump attracted a lot of support form voters who assumed he would be more liberal on social policies and more conservative on fiscal policies than he has actually been.
The most recent Pew Research Survey has more detail about the generational divide. It shows that the old saw that young people would naturally grow more conservative as they age, or that their Democratic loyalties were an idiosyncratic response to Barack Obama’s unique personal appeal, has not held. Younger voters have distinctly more liberal views than older voters:
Pew survey: Party ID by Generation:
Rather than growing more conservative as they grow older, millennials as a group are becoming more liberal.
Gen Xers are basically holding steady in partisanship. In 2014, GenXers favored Democrats by 9%; at this point in 2017 they are D+10.
On Trump Job Approval by Generation, Trump is underwater by 38%; Gen Xers by -21%; Boomers by -7%; Silents by -2%; overall -20 (37% approve with 57% disapprove)
Silent Generation (age 73 to 90) (11% of adult pop; 79% n/h white)
43% Democrat/57% Republican
Boomer Generation (age 54 to 72): 29% of adult pop; 72% n/h white
48% Democrat/46% Republican
Gen X (age 38 to 53 ): 26% of adult pop; 62% n/h white
48% Democrat/43% Republican
Millennials (age 22 to 37): 28% of adult pop; 56% n/h white
59% Democrat/32% Republican
Post-Millennials (age 18-21) 5% of adult pop; 53% n/h white
Regarding the early indications of the leanings of post- millennials, a PRRI survey at the time of the 2016 election showed that among respondents aged 15 to 24 years of age, 57% favored the election of Hillary Clinton. At the same time, the annual ci election by Scholastic Magazine of school children favored Clinton over Trump by 52% to 35%. In contrast to conservative beliefs, the post-millennial generation’s political orientation is still forming, since the lion ‘s share of that generation have not yet reached their political formative years or young adulthood, but the oldest members of that generation who have reached adulthood have shown no such sharp break with millennials.
Linked is a short podcast by Bill Frey of Brookings discussing the above.
I'm not too happy about conservatives dying off. One of them is my Mom. My Dad is another. Others are close friends. I doubt I will be ready to say goodbye to them any time soon.
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