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Old 03-03-2018, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Qatar Refused to Invest in Kushner’s Firm. Weeks Later, Jared Backed a Blockade of Qatar.

Long story short; Kushner's bought this big Skyscraper on Fifth Ave. in Manhattan for nearly $2bn.

The 08' drop made them have to refinance big time, but still they don't have the capitol to pay off the mortgage.

Fast forward to last year.

Kushner's father meets with Qutari officials who decline to invest in the floundering building. He met with people from Qatar, UAE , and Russia.

Weeks after, Kushner lobbied hard to President Trump to endorse a blockade of the country, even though it is actually a political loss for the US, because Qatar would move towards working with Iran more.
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Old 03-03-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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Long Story Short:

Qatar has financed Terrorism in the Mid-East for years ..... even the Obama Administration said this and attempted some individual 'sanctions'. I seriously doubt that Jared Kushner had any political clout in 2014.

In 2014, then-US Treasury Under-Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence David Cohen noted: "Qatar, a long-time US ally, has for many years openly financed Hamas, a group that continues to undermine regional stability. Press reports indicate that the Qatari government is also supporting extremist groups operating in Syria."
He also drew attention to the "permissive" environment in Qatar that allowed fundraisers to solicit donations for extremist groups such as al-Qaeda and so-called Islamic State.

BBC - June 2017

Qatar hosts (or hosted) the headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, al-Queda, a variety of Syrian Extremists, the Taliban in the Mid-East & the Houthis that are at war with Saudi Arabia .... you name the Terror Group and they are funding them.

Add to all that -- there is no "blockade", the Major Nations in the Gulf Coast Council & Arab Cooperation Council are boycotting movement by Qatar in their sea and land space.

It's ludicrous to think that Saudi Arabia (which is going through a major reformation), Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Jordan are ALL doing this for Jared Kushner and real estate deals. The only financing involved is the financing that Qatar is giving to Terror groups and their close ties with Iran and it's financing of the SAME Terror Groups.
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Old 03-03-2018, 10:54 AM
 
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Long Story Short:

Qatar has financed Terrorism in the Mid-East for years ..... even the Obama Administration said this and attempted some individual 'sanctions'. I seriously doubt that Jared Kushner had any political clout in 2014.

In 2014, then-US Treasury Under-Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence David Cohen noted: "Qatar, a long-time US ally, has for many years openly financed Hamas, a group that continues to undermine regional stability. Press reports indicate that the Qatari government is also supporting extremist groups operating in Syria."
He also drew attention to the "permissive" environment in Qatar that allowed fundraisers to solicit donations for extremist groups such as al-Qaeda and so-called Islamic State.

BBC - June 2017

Qatar hosts (or hosted) the headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, al-Queda, a variety of Syrian Extremists, the Taliban in the Mid-East & the Houthis that are at war with Saudi Arabia .... you name the Terror Group and they are funding them.

Add to all that -- there is no "blockade", the Major Nations in the Gulf Coast Council & Arab Cooperation Council are boycotting movement by Qatar in their sea and land space.

It's ludicrous to think that Saudi Arabia (which is going through a major reformation), Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Jordan are ALL doing this for Jared Kushner and real estate deals. The only financing involved is the financing that Qatar is giving to Terror groups and their close ties with Iran and it's financing of the SAME Terror Groups.
Are you kidding? Saudi have long been an incubator for terrorism. They also have all too often been a reluctant ally. Qatar has actually always been a reliable ally.

The correct approach was Tillerson's which was to work back channels to simmer down the tensions. Not publicly picks sides as Kushner did.

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Old 03-03-2018, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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There is no question that Kushner's financial woes places a pressure upon him that other people do not have.

One Congressman said his staff is not allowed to accept a $50 free dinner. $500 million in financing????

Yes this opens the question would we rather poor people run DC just because they have credentials and experience?

Answer, they likely would be better than rich, conflicted, and ignorant.
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:48 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Kibby View Post
Long Story Short:

Qatar has financed Terrorism in the Mid-East for years ..... even the Obama Administration said this and attempted some individual 'sanctions'. I seriously doubt that Jared Kushner had any political clout in 2014.

In 2014, then-US Treasury Under-Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence David Cohen noted: "Qatar, a long-time US ally, has for many years openly financed Hamas, a group that continues to undermine regional stability. Press reports indicate that the Qatari government is also supporting extremist groups operating in Syria."
He also drew attention to the "permissive" environment in Qatar that allowed fundraisers to solicit donations for extremist groups such as al-Qaeda and so-called Islamic State.
BBC - June 2017

Qatar hosts (or hosted) the headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, al-Queda, a variety of Syrian Extremists, the Taliban in the Mid-East & the Houthis that are at war with Saudi Arabia .... you name the Terror Group and they are funding them.

Add to all that -- there is no "blockade", the Major Nations in the Gulf Coast Council & Arab Cooperation Council are boycotting movement by Qatar in their sea and land space.

It's ludicrous to think that Saudi Arabia (which is going through a major reformation), Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Jordan are ALL doing this for Jared Kushner and real estate deals. The only financing involved is the financing that Qatar is giving to Terror groups and their close ties with Iran and it's financing of the SAME Terror Groups.
And he is an article about another one of those wonderful allies you cite.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/world/middleeast/egypt-north-korea-sanctions-arms-dealing.html
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:53 PM
 
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White House for Sale.
White House for Sale.

How much am I offered and what do you want for your "donation" of "consideration"? I, Jared Kushner, have had access to virtually every super top secret paper even tho I am not qualified. And - it's more important for me not to go bankrupt than to be a Patriot.

C'mon - what did you expect me to do? Turn down big money?

Please look the other way while my FIL and I are selling this country off in pieces.
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Old 03-03-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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Long Story Short:

It's ludicrous to think that Saudi Arabia (which is going through a major reformation), Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Jordan are ALL doing this for Jared Kushner and real estate deals. The only financing involved is the financing that Qatar is giving to Terror groups and their close ties with Iran and it's financing of the SAME Terror Groups.
Saudi going through major reformation...as far as their religion? No.
They still beat women (legal) and have almost complete separation of the sexes. They still cannot do most anything that you think of being in the modern world. A woman still cannot go ANYWHERE or do anything without a male guardian with her at all times.

The Burka is still big there.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...aid-to-be-the/

"What is Wahhabism? The reactionary branch of Islam from Saudi Arabia said to be 'the main source of global terrorism' "

I can't help thinking either you do business with the Sauds - or you are not well read. For example, did you read the recent book written by a Saudi Woman about her trying to drive a car? Read it - and then think of Bin Laden and the 9/11 plot and the Madrassas and other efforts (publishing houses, etc.) that the Saudis are financing.

Saudi Arabia is - by commission or omission - not only the largest terrorist farm in the world, but also perhaps the single most Fundamentalist Islam country in the world. Have your views changed on Fundie Islam?

All this stuff going on now is just internal money and power stuff. Sure, every decade or so they loosen things up a tiny bit. But the country is run by decrees of the Fundie religious figures and it is very far out....

For example, the Starbucks there does not currently allow women in. This is because they forgot to build "The Wall" that has to be built in every place that separates men and women. This despite women being in Hijabs (you can't see them anyway).

I'm sure you can find an exception - but that is Saudi Arabia and it has never changed quickly. In fact, the reason they are so strict is to put down ANY critique of the King and the Government so as not to allow protest or free speech to take root.
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Old 03-03-2018, 07:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Kibby View Post
Long Story Short:

Qatar has financed Terrorism in the Mid-East for years ..... even the Obama Administration said this and attempted some individual 'sanctions'. I seriously doubt that Jared Kushner had any political clout in 2014.

In 2014, then-US Treasury Under-Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence David Cohen noted: "Qatar, a long-time US ally, has for many years openly financed Hamas, a group that continues to undermine regional stability. Press reports indicate that the Qatari government is also supporting extremist groups operating in Syria."
He also drew attention to the "permissive" environment in Qatar that allowed fundraisers to solicit donations for extremist groups such as al-Qaeda and so-called Islamic State.

BBC - June 2017

Qatar hosts (or hosted) the headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, al-Queda, a variety of Syrian Extremists, the Taliban in the Mid-East & the Houthis that are at war with Saudi Arabia .... you name the Terror Group and they are funding them.

Add to all that -- there is no "blockade", the Major Nations in the Gulf Coast Council & Arab Cooperation Council are boycotting movement by Qatar in their sea and land space.

It's ludicrous to think that Saudi Arabia (which is going through a major reformation), Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Jordan are ALL doing this for Jared Kushner and real estate deals. The only financing involved is the financing that Qatar is giving to Terror groups and their close ties with Iran and it's financing of the SAME Terror Groups.
Saudi Arabia finances terrorism...

Pakistan finances terrorism...

Russia obviously...

China wouldn't surprise me...

List can go on. Den of snakes.
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Old 03-24-2018, 06:20 AM
 
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Now this.

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/977263740121952257
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Old 03-24-2018, 07:04 AM
 
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Jared Kushner May Have Compromised US Sercurity Due to His Family's Floundering Fortune (Congress, Iran)
This is what happens when we put mobsters in the white house.
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