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Old 03-05-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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He also just said Trump knew about the tower meeting in advance.

That is in fact pretty bad from a collusion point of view.
Trump remains guilty of winning the election over the objections of the media and all of the self appointed lords over us....he's guilty of nothing else.
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Old 03-05-2018, 06:49 PM
 
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Trump remains guilty of winning the election over the objections of the media and all of the self appointed lords over us....he's guilty of nothing else.
Hahahahahahahahah
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Old 03-05-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Maybe we can finally get around to abolishing the office of the Presidency. Next we can abolish Congress and the Supreme Court.

What say, conservatives? You up for finally shedding the shackles of Statism and coming over to the dark side of libertarianism?
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:10 PM
 
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None of that makes any sense. What are you talking about?

Carter Page is Donald Trump? Nunes is supposed to investigate FISA warrants that weren't issued? And it's illegal to blow the whistle on criminal activity in government?

What?
Where did I say it's illegal to blow the whistle on criminal activity in government?

I'll try to explain:

1. Nunes wrote a memo alleging that the FBI improperly got a FISA warrant on Carter Page.
2. Now Nunberg says Carter Page did in fact collude with the Russians.
3. This raises a question: did Nunes, with his access to classified information, know that the FBI had information showing that Carter Page was in collusion as Nunberg asserts? And if Nunes did know that, did he write the memo to try to preemptively discredit the FBI? If he did, that's a crime.

Nunberg saying Page colluded is significant. It means one Trump team member is accusing another of collusion, a major break in the case. If Nunberg is right that Team Trump was in collusion, then the next step is to find out if Trump knew about it and participated in the collusion.
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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Cherry pick. That’s what some are doing. Cherry picking certain quotes but leaving out others. Shame. On. You.
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Where did I say it's illegal to blow the whistle on criminal activity in government?

I'll try to explain:

1. Nunes wrote a memo alleging that the FBI improperly got a FISA warrant on Carter Page.
2. Now Nunberg says Carter Page did in fact collude with the Russians.
3. This raises a question: did Nunes, with his access to classified information, know that the FBI had information showing that Carter Page was in collusion as Nunberg asserts? And if Nunes did know that, did he write the memo to try to preemptively discredit the FBI? If he did, that's a crime.

Nunberg saying Page colluded is significant. It means one Trump team member is accusing another of collusion, a major break in the case. If Nunberg is right that Team Trump was in collusion, then the next step is to find out if Trump knew about it and participated in the collusion.
It's an opinion. He also said Page was a scumbag. He also said he has no love for Trump but doesn't believe he did anything wrong. He also said Trump most likely knew of the Trump Tower meeting and there was no reason to lie about it.

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Cherry pick. That’s what some are doing. Cherry picking certain quotes but leaving out others. Shame. On. You.
That's exactly what they are doing. Very similar to what Democrats did to obtain the FISA warrant.

Here is the full interview with CNN's Jake Tapper


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMsT1Igpl6E
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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Did any of you libs actually read the WaPo story? Not only does Nunberg come off as a total jackass, he obviously hates Trump with a passion. I'd be careful judging anything about Trump from this guy.
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:57 PM
 
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Cherry pick. That’s what some are doing. Cherry picking certain quotes but leaving out others. Shame. On. You.
There is no cherry picking going on with Nunberg. He gave up three different interviews and gave forth a king's buffet of quotes on a zillion different subjects. He's not being quoted out of context because it was stream of consciousness with not much context.

There's something far worse and reprehensible than cherry picking: Trump supporters will begin a character assassination on Nunberg, calling him drunk, on drugs, crazy. They will slander him to the moon to try to discredit his testimony.
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Old 03-05-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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Did any of you libs actually read the WaPo story? Not only does Nunberg come off as a total jackass, he obviously hates Trump with a passion. I'd be careful judging anything about Trump from this guy.
The fact that Nunberg now hates Trump and that he could have damaging information against him that is not motivated by this hate are not mutually exclusive.

Muller is not taking Flynn's, Papadopoulos', Gates' or anyone else's word a sole statement of truth. His team will try and corroborate all statements against those of other witnesses and documents they've reviewed. That is why people being interviewed need to tell the truth because they don't know what Muller's team knows from other's testimony or from documents they've secured.
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Old 03-06-2018, 09:38 AM
 
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He also just said Trump knew about the tower meeting in advance.

That is in fact pretty bad from a collusion point of view.
Indeed. This may be the most significant thing that Nunberg said. And not only did he say that Trump knew about the meeting, he also said Trump actively lied about and hid his knowledge of the meeting.

Trump's knowledge of the Trump tower meeting + negotiating with Russians on lifting sanctions = a good case for illegal conspiracy and collusion
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