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Old 03-06-2018, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Is Multiculturalism the reason why America has so much violence?
Anti-multiculturalism is the cause of "so much" violence. All that goes with it - racism, classism, prejudice, etc. - works against us and leads to violence.

Simply put, when we recognize and remember what our country was founded on, open to all, rich in culture and diversity, we flourish and are more at peace. When we forget that and/or work against that, the violence rises.
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Old 03-06-2018, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Austin
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take out the black on black inner-city and illegal immigrant crimes and let's see if america has a crime problem relative to the rest of the world. i'd like to see those stats. anyone have them?
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Old 03-06-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: London
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take out the inner-city and illegal immigrant crimes and let's see if america has a crime problem relative to the rest of the world. i'd like to see those stats. anyone have them?
Oh no you don't. You can take out the crimes by illegals, but not by those from inner cities. Like it or not, inner cities are a part of America too.
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Old 03-06-2018, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Oh no you don't. You can take out the crimes by illegals, but not by those from inner cities. Like it or not, inner cities are a part of America too.
inner cities are a part of America, but inner city black on black crime is an issue no one cares about. local and state politicians nor the citizens living in these black areas care about black on black crime or the voters wouldn't reelected the same people again and again.

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Old 03-06-2018, 05:33 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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NJ and NYC are the most culturally diverse places in the world yet, outside certain areas that are almost entirely black, the crime rate is very low and similar to most other places in the world.
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Old 03-06-2018, 05:34 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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War and empires are not the same thing as interpersonal and societal violence.
Western European culture was riddled with violent crime up to about the turn of the century.

New data presented at the conference by a Dutch scholar, Pieter Spierenburg, showed that the homicide rate in Amsterdam, for example, dropped from 47 per 100,000 people in the mid-15th century to 1 to 1.5 per 100,000 in the early 19th century.

Professor Stone has estimated that the homicide rate in medieval England was on average 10 times that of 20th century England. A study of the university town of Oxford in the 1340's showed an extraordinarily high annual rate of about 110 per 100,000 people. Studies of London in the first half of the 14th century determined a homicide rate of 36 to 52 per 100,000 people per year.


Historical Study of Homicide and Cities Surprises the Experts - NYTimes.com

I assume this was because Western Europeans were genetically predisposed to being violent and barbaric.

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The Middle East has long changed genetically since the ancient civilizations. They were ancestrally/genetically most related to modern day Europeans during antiquity. Europe was not a barbaric wasteland even during the time before and just after the Roman empire. That's revisionist and cherry picked history.
Any evidence for this or are you just making it all up as you go along?

This article seems to counter your claims.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/healt...age/index.html

In contrast to the Middle East, Europe at the time was a cold dark wasteland devoid of civilization.
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Old 03-06-2018, 06:00 PM
 
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Western European culture was riddled with violent crime up to about the turn of the century.

New data presented at the conference by a Dutch scholar, Pieter Spierenburg, showed that the homicide rate in Amsterdam, for example, dropped from 47 per 100,000 people in the mid-15th century to 1 to 1.5 per 100,000 in the early 19th century.

Professor Stone has estimated that the homicide rate in medieval England was on average 10 times that of 20th century England. A study of the university town of Oxford in the 1340's showed an extraordinarily high annual rate of about 110 per 100,000 people. Studies of London in the first half of the 14th century determined a homicide rate of 36 to 52 per 100,000 people per year.


Historical Study of Homicide and Cities Surprises the Experts - NYTimes.com

I assume this was because Western Europeans were genetically predisposed to being violent and barbaric.



Any evidence for this or are you just making it all up as you go along?

This article seems to counter your claims.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/healt...age/index.html

In contrast to the Middle East, Europe at the time was a cold dark wasteland devoid of civilization.
The whole world was more violent in the past, but that is just exaggerating and cherry picking. You're not comparing the rates of violence of other cultures during the same era. What do you think the violence levels were in the Americas and Africa and most of Asia at the time? The middle east was violent in antiquity too. There were lots of slaves, they crucified and skinned people alive etc for merely having a dissenting opinion.

You are demonstrating a clear anti-European bias and there's no shortage of sources of that.


https://www.vrc.crim.cam.ac.uk/vrcre...n-violence.pdf

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The curve suggested that typical rates may have been about twenty homicides per 100,000 population in the High and Late Middle Ages, dropping to ten around 1600, and ending after an extended downswing at about one per 100,000 in the twentieth century
So it was lower in 1600 than many parts of the world even today. And your link is actually agreeing with me that Ancient Egyptians were different genetically from modern Egyptians and ancestors of the near East. But there are other studies showing they're ancestral to or of European haplogroups.

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Old 03-06-2018, 06:13 PM
 
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take out the black on black inner-city and illegal immigrant crimes and let's see if america has a crime problem relative to the rest of the world. i'd like to see those stats. anyone have them?
I've seen the statistics showing over 90% of violent crime in several cities is committed by black and Hispanic. While it's true that most blacks and Hispanics aren't violent criminals, the fact remains members of those groups disproportionately increase the crime rate.
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Old 03-06-2018, 06:25 PM
 
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I've seen the statistics showing over 90% of violent crime in several cities is committed by black and Hispanic. While it's true that most blacks and Hispanics aren't violent criminals, the fact remains members of those groups disproportionately increase the crime rate.
So what are you going to do about it?
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Old 03-06-2018, 06:33 PM
 
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So what are you going to do about it?
Stay clear of diverse, high crime areas and be armed. What do you want me to do about violent crime, blame white people who aren't committing it?
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