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Old 03-06-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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Why the hell would I want to paint a giant target on my back? Because that's exactly what would happen. You think men who are reported for creating a hostile work environment are tossed out on their asses by lunchtime?


ROFL


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No.


If you turn in a co-worker, YOU are the one with the problem. Women talk, and by the time we're 24-25 years old, we have figured out who HR works for and what happens to women who talk to them about other coworkers: they're passed over for promotions, get less-than-favorable performance reviews, and are hustled out the door at the next RIF.


I have bills to pay, son. And principles aren't gonna pay them.
In all fairness, this happens to anyone "causing trouble" for any reason, male or female. HR's job is damage control for the company.

I saw the outcome for a PC tech who found very disturbing photos on an exec's laptop. (As in, illegal. Age issues.) Oh, sure, the exec was eventually and discreetly shown the door - ehm, "decided to pursue opportunities elsewhere". The PC tech? Dead man walking from that day. Phone grew silent, moved to the crappiest cube, reassigned to the worst jobs that could arguably be said to be within his job description. Eventually he saw the light and quit. The squeaky wheel gets replaced with a non-squeaky one.
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Old 03-06-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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What kind of nerd, male or female, doesn't like Star Wars?

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Old 03-06-2018, 09:39 AM
 
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“Women talk”


Exactly
And men don't? Dude, I run a world-spanning computer network for a living, and I wish I could push bytes at the speed of company gossip. Everybody talks.
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Old 03-06-2018, 09:42 AM
 
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What kind of nerd, male or female, doesn't like Star Wars?

Meh. It has hits and misses. Great music, though.
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Old 03-06-2018, 09:46 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Meh. It has hits and misses. Great music, though.
Quite a few misses as of late sans Rogue One.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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Quite a few misses as of late sans Rogue One.
The goddamn Ewoks started the downhill spiral as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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I had two different coworkers from two different companies who were lifelong Trekkies and Star Wars geeks, camping out on the sidewalk with other geeks for the latest films. They were also lesbians.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Austin
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I was a professional woman for decades in a male dominated field and have the experience to say the new feminists seem determined to turn back the clock on the gains women have made in the workplace to Victorian times with this fainting couch nonsense.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:15 AM
 
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What you mean to tell me that all those “inclusionary” organizations like Girls Who Code that put on events addressed only to girls can’t penetrate this “paper poster fortress” put up by effeminate soy boys?

If you get to Dork-ville and turn around because of a poster then the only toxic culture is the permanent victim-hood created by Identity Politics.

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Old 03-06-2018, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Happy to help.


No, it isn't "Star Wars" posters...this isn't the 90s. I haven't seen Star Wars anything at the office for many years. Most of the youngsters from India in the field now have never seen any of the Star Wars movies (at least not the ones I've worked with).


Women get little to no guidance and if we ask for help, we look weak...so we try to figure things out on our own instead of getting the opportunity to do "peer programming" or "pair programming" (the terms are used interchangeably). So we miss out both on relationship-building and knowledge transfer.


Additionally, the field was already rife with sexism and there are three major roadblocks for women in I.T. right now:

  • Age discrimination: it begins much earlier for us, as in in our 40s.
  • The "bro" culture, mostly found in Silicon Valley but also present in other tech startups and small companies throughout the country.
  • The "H1B" culture which is primarily male, south Asian, and under 35. It's a triple threat in terms of discrimination against women given that men in general discriminate against women (even subconsciously), the under 35s are more likely to discriminate on the basis of age which hits us disproportionately, and south Asian culture is more patriarchal and more likely to have a cultural bias against women, particularly assertive & highly skilled women.

Star Wars posters have nothing to do with it.
Not saying it's true or false since I wouldn't know, but how do you know that women get less guidance? Is that just your own experience?
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