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what are your suggestions? I agree demonizing people is counter productive.
Yeah, but that's exactly what you did, you know? You are making broad statements. I'm telling you, something is going to change. So, what will it be? I agree with age restrictions. I agree with waiting periods. I agree with comprehensive background checks. I think bump stocks should be gone. I think ammunition should be restricted. I think registration of guns--all types--should be a thing. I think certain classes of weapons do not (or should not) meet the "common usage" test. I think a lot of things. What I don't think is that we'll see any useful talk. All I've heard in response is MORE GUNS. Not an acceptable argument. You can be a part of the conversation, or stick your fingers in your ears until it's over.
Yeah, but that's exactly what you did, you know? You are making broad statements. I'm telling you, something is going to change. So, what will it be? I agree with age restrictions. I agree with waiting periods. I agree with comprehensive background checks. I think bump stocks should be gone. I think ammunition should be restricted. I think registration of guns--all types--should be a thing. I think certain classes of weapons do not (or should not) meet the "common usage" test. I think a lot of things. What I don't think is that we'll see any useful talk. All I've heard in response is MORE GUNS. Not an acceptable argument. You can be a part of the conversation, or stick your fingers in your ears until it's over.
I've heard repeatedly that people who support the 2nd amendment don't care about dead children. I've heard repeatedly I am, a law abiding gun owner and parent, responsible for dead kids. How dare they??
I disagree with most of your suggestions with the exception bump stocks should be outlawed.
do you want 18 year old soldiers restricted from owning guns?
No restrictions on gun ownership will be supported by me. ever.
Hence, my question. Under the very same argument, why can guns not be prohibited to blacks, or Muslims? Broad generalizations based only on the fact that these groups are more likely to commit certain criminal acts. For blacks, homicide, and for Muslims, terrorism.
According to who is this information fact? Lets take blacks being a minority group yet commit the most homicide??? I've always questioned this kinds of data where some insert minority here seems to always be the highest in anything BAD! Looks like fake news might have been around a lot longer than we think.
Old lady speaking here. I can remember when the drinking age was 18, but some bars and clubs banned anyone under the age of 25 (checked ID's) from entering their premises. Private Businesses like Walmart's ban on under 21 selling guns?
BTW, if a private business can legally refuse to bake a wedding cake, a private business cannot refuse to sell a gun? How many people are dying from wedding cakes????
According to who is this information fact? Lets take blacks being a minority group yet commit the most homicide??? I've always questioned this kinds of data where some insert minority here seems to always be the highest in anything BAD! Looks like fake news might have been around a lot longer than we think.
According to the Federal Government's data compiled by the DOJ/FBI.
Is it your suspicion that the data has been forged somehow? Every year for decades? Don't you think that seems far-fetched?
Simple: Age is "competence-based" whereas race and religion are not. Why don't we sell tobacco, booze, and porn to children? The point it is to keep kids and others safe and not expose them to age-inappropriate stuff. I don't think any sane person would want a four-year-old child playing with a gun. The basic logic extends to background checks. Some people have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted with guns. Felons and people suffering sever emotional illness, for example. Consider the teen in Vermont who applauded the Florida shootings and was apparently planning to engage in a school shooting. In terms of straight-up common sense, no sane person really wants him to go out an buy a bunch of guns.
Deliberately missing the point because it doesn't agree with your bias? It's LEGAL to buy a rifle at 18, should a store be able to decide they don't want to do so like several liberal virtue signaling stores have done recently? Should a store be able to say they won't sell alcohol to someone under age 30?
An argument could easily be made that religion is competence based, liberals have been saying that people who believe in God are mentally deficient for years.
The courts have clearly said businesses can't decide who they sell to or not. The left is very selective about which civil rights they support though so I don't expect the ACLU to sue Dicks about not selling rifles to people legally entitled to buy them.
According to the Federal Government's data compiled by the DOJ/FBI.
Is it your suspicion that the data has been forged somehow? Every year for decades? Don't you think that seems far-fetched?
Absolutely NOT considering all the low down things the FBI, DOJ, the courts etc.. have been accused of doing. I bring this up b/c ever since Trump has been under investigation folks on these boards alone have been saying how the gov't, FBI, DOJ and the lot of them are corrupt against Trump and his people. Well it didn't just start now. So if people on here are creaming how corrupt things are on the things that are being exposed what do you think was happening all along. I am not discrediting your comment I'm questioning can anything that comes from the gov't be 100% believable.
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