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Old 03-09-2018, 04:34 AM
 
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An analysis said last night that Intel reports have shown that North Korea is on the verge of total bankruptcy. Their economy is crashing. The severe sanctions that Trump has put on them, especially making China's bank cooperate has brought Kim to his knees. And that's why he asked for a meeting with Trump ASAP
We shall see...
NK has been on the verge of bankruptcy for a long time. Trump hasn't brought anybody "to [their] knees." Trump is an idiot. Do you see any other leader in the free world legitimizing Kim Jong Un? No, you do not. Because the leaders in other countries each have a brain. And they know that someone like Kim Jong Un, who is certifiably insane, is not someone to be reasoned with.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:35 AM
 
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First time in the last 24 years that NK is sitting down to talk.....clinton, bush, and obama....and if you want to go further...add bush 1.....28 years....

Yea, by liberal logic, they got nothing....
The fact that you actually believe this is just sad.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:41 AM
 
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Damn dude, get the **** over it. Your leftist bull**** is being REJECTED and replaced by America first LEADERSHIP!
Donald Trump is not about "America first." He throws that crap out there--starts trade wars, legitimizes certifiably insane foreign leaders, invites Russia to hack emails, etc.--to throw some jingoistic meat to his base. And his base laps it up every. single. time.

Perhaps it's time for you to wake the **** up, because your right-wing bull**** is destroying this nation.

Yeah, that's right, only FOX, Trump, and his followers have "the truth." The rest of the world--all the other leaders in the Western world, all the legitimate, long-term journalists--are somehow nothing but "fake news." The fact that you can't see how utterly insane this is is disturbing.

Trump followers act like Trump just came out of heaven one day. Trump has been around a long time, and most of us have been watching the idiotic, revolting Trump Show for decades. The man is the very incarnation of a con. The rest of the world watches in horror as his cultish followers trip over themselves to lick his boots, and--somehow--it's the rest of the world that gets it wrong. Right-o.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:48 AM
 
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Maybe not ... but does Trump?

I want to be pleased about this I really do but I cannot help but wonder why this week and why the hurried timing?

Tillerson was pretty much blindsided. The special envoy to North Korea is retiring and not yet replaced. No ambassador to South Korea.

But this is the week when Trump demonstrated with the metals tariffs he will ignore skilled counsel from top economic advisors like Cohn (who he also blindsided) ... overrode defense considerations raised by Mattis ... and in the process rode also roughshod over long-term allies like Canada, although there he has backed down for now.

And then at this precise *moment* Kim Jong-un proposes meeting and quickly?

We can hope that the proposal is a natural outgrowth of talks between N. Korea and S. Korea. Too, there has been a lot of cross signaling that includes the United States, although Tillerson is on record as saying he believed any actual negotiations to be some time away.

So the precise timing is worrisome. There's a lot at stake.
Cohn wasn't blindsided. He knew from day 1 that Trump and his other economic advisors favored tariffs. Cohn lost a few other economic battles before this. His choices were to be the minority voice, go along, or quit and criticize. Bye-bye.


We'll find out whether Trump gets played by NK or achieves something nobody before him has achieved.
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Donald Trump is not about "America first." He throws that crap out there--starts trade wars, legitimizes certifiably insane foreign leaders, invites Russia to hack emails, etc.--to throw some jingoistic meat to his base. And his base laps it up every. single. time.

Perhaps it's time for you to wake the **** up, because your right-wing bull**** is destroying this nation.

Yeah, that's right, only FOX, Trump, and his followers have "the truth." The rest of the world--all the other leaders in the Western world, all the legitimate, long-term journalists--are somehow nothing but "fake news." The fact that you can't see how utterly insane this is is disturbing.

Trump followers act like Trump just came out of heaven one day. Trump has been around a long time, and most of us have been watching the idiotic, revolting Trump Show for decades. The man is the very incarnation of a con. The rest of the world watches in horror as his cultish followers trip over themselves to lick his boots, and--somehow--it's the rest of the world that gets it wrong. Right-o.
Nope, we are witnessing peak liberalism. It's over, the past reign of soviet subverted demoralised leftist freaks is DONE FOR!
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:51 AM
 
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North Korea has made these promises before. Trump meeting with NK is idiocy in the extreme. No POTUS has met with a leader of NK because it gives legitimacy to a brutal dictatorship. It tells Kim Jong Un that he matters, that he is on par with other world leaders. Kim Jong Un is a maniac; anyone who thinks that Trump--of all people--is going to "solve" this problem is living in a reality of their own making.

On a related note re yesterday's news: Never before have I seen foreign leaders emerge from the White House, as the South Korean National Security guy and his minions did yesterday, deliver news about his government, to the American people, and then walk back into the White House. Trump was nowhere to be seen. It was beyond bizarre and not a little unsettling. If Obama had allowed this, the right-wingers would be up in arms, screeching about Obama handing our White House over to foreigners. Yet, oddly, not a peep.

Trump needs to go. He is nearly as insane as Kim Jong Un. He is a man with no understanding of how government works, plagued by decades of corrupt money laundering--and cheating people out of their pay--and skirt-chasing, who is barely even literate, who spends his early morning hours tweeting god-knows-what to his salivating, practically unconscious base, and most of his time golfing, who decides on the spur of the moment to put drilling in ANWR into a bill because a friend mentioned it to him (hey, good idea, put that in there, too!). It is beyond surreal that this know-nothing, loud-mouth lunatic is sitting in our White House. No matter what the man says or does, no matter how utterly off-the-rails he is, his base utters not one word of criticism. Not a patriot among them.
Agree it's beyond surreal. Wondering if his 'Hail Mary play' is to just simply admit to any & all allegations of obstruction, collusion, violations of Constitution, flagrant conflicts of interest, et cetera?

Perhaps he really could stand on New York’s Fifth Avenue “& shoot somebody” & still not lose his loyal lapdog lawyer legislator lobbyist base?
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Old 03-09-2018, 04:54 AM
 
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Putin is playing you guys. He set this up to give Trump a bit of a boost during these troubling times.

NK is not going to give up their nukes.

Get real.
kims number one ( and only ) priority is maintaining absolute power in his own little kingdom , tin pot dictators like that gain nothing from giving an inch as it makes the fantasy of their perceived invincibility look like the myth it is

probably more importantly , unless china are interested in doing something , nothing happens re_ north korea

north korea is a china issue as kim is useful to china
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Old 03-09-2018, 05:06 AM
 
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kims number one ( and only ) priority is maintaining absolute power in his own little kingdom , tin pot dictators like that gain nothing from giving an inch as it makes the fantasy of their perceived invincibility look like the myth it is

probably more importantly , unless china are interested in doing something , nothing happens re_ north korea

north korea is a china issue as kim is useful to china
Can agree with this assessment. Granted, at this point, China is much more interested in Mr. Trump's proposed 'trade war' debacle. Is Mr. Trump attempting to sell this as a national security justification?
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Old 03-09-2018, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Boston
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thankfully we finally have a President who will negotiate with NoKo. Ignoring him for the past 8 years didn't work.
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Old 03-09-2018, 05:11 AM
 
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Trump announces lots of stuff he never follows through on, just more BS from the BS man.
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