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Old 03-09-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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I've had a lot of sympathy for the "Dreamers" but this is turning me off. I love to see Democrats take a punch to the monkey as much as anyone but these are not even citizens. They have no right to be here and they are protesting.

Maybe they should just be deported. All of them. And then put them on a list, maybe the top of the list for legal immigration consideration.

Maybe then they would appreciate this country and stop EXPECTING anything.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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I've had a lot of sympathy for the "Dreamers" but this is turning me off. I love to see Democrats take a punch to the monkey as much as anyone but these are not even citizens. They have no right to be here and they are protesting.

Maybe they should just be deported. All of them. And then put them on a list, maybe the top of the list for legal immigration consideration.

Maybe then they would appreciate this country and stop EXPECTING anything.

I disagree that the Dreamers should be put on the top of the list. What makes them so special? Just because their parents managed to drag them over the border illegally? I don't think so! It's not fair to the parents who waited to bring their kids here legally.
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Old 03-09-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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Cato estimates it will cost 7.5 billion to deport DACAs.

What's the cost of the Wall?

IMO, the only solution is to jail any person who employees illegals. End birthright citizenship.
its been estimated that the wall will cost around $18-26 billion. but it isnt the cost of deporting just the DACAs, add to that all the illegals that should be deported, yearly, and the cost of the damages that criminal illegals cause while here. once you d that, you start to realize that the wall is much cheaper in the long run.
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Old 03-09-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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its been estimated that the wall will cost around $18-26 billion. but it isnt the cost of deporting just the DACAs, add to that all the illegals that should be deported, yearly, and the cost of the damages that criminal illegals cause while here. once you d that, you start to realize that the wall is much cheaper in the long run.
That's only true if you believe that the "wall" will stop illegal immigration and drugs but it doesn't seem that it will do much about either one:

Drugs "A 24-page report prepared by the DEA in May found that drugs coming from Mexico do often enter through the southwestern border, but they do so concealed in vehicles, like tractor-trailers. Moreover, drugs coming from Colombia are more often transported by plane and boat, the reports notes.
Transnational criminal organizations “generally route larger drug shipments destined for the Northeast through the Bahamas and/or South Florida by using a variety of maritime conveyance methods, to include speedboats, fishing vessels, sailboats, yachts, and containerized sea cargo,” the reports reads. “In some cases, Dominican Republic-based traffickers will also transport cocaine into Haiti for subsequent shipment to the United States via the Bahamas and/or South Florida corridor using maritime and air transport.”


Illegal Entry Individuals who visited the U.S. legally but overstayed their visas have outnumbered those who arrived illegally since 2007.
In addition to those who voluntarily present themselves to U.S. authorities, there is a larger group that wouldn’t encounter the wall: People who cross legally on a temporary nonimmigrant visa and overstay.
In 2014, visa overstays accounted for two-thirds of new unauthorized immigrants, according to a recent report by the Center for Migration Studies authored by the group’s executive director, Donald Kerwin, and Robert Warren, former director of statistics for the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).
According to the report, overstays have exceeded illegal crossings at the southwest border since 2007, and in 2014 they accounted for 42 percent of the undocumented population, a percentage that “will continue to increase as long as overstaying continues to be the predominant mode of arrival.” This trend follows years of border fortification and a reduction in the number of migrants from Mexico choosing to make the journey.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.f59c8ed9e0de

To Pay for Wall, Trump Would Cut Proven Border Security Measures
“People that are dealing with this issue know that a third-century solution to a 21st-century problem is not going to fix this long-term,” said Representative Will Hurd, Republican of Texas and a former C.I.A. officer. Mr. Hurd, whose district includes more than 800 miles of border territory with Mexico, has pushed for more funding for sensors and other border security technologies. “So unless the wall is 35,000 feet high, it's not going to do much to stop those overstaying these visas,” said Robert Warren, a fellow at the Center for Migration Studies who has worked on immigration issues for Republican and Democratic presidents. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/u...veillance.html
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