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Old 03-06-2018, 10:05 AM
 
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Just saying. Why not refuse to sell guns to blacks and Muslims based on the disproportionate involvement in homicide and terrorism? At least that has a more fact based nexus than age.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: United States
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Very good question.

Refusing to sell a gun to someone based on age would seem to be a clear cut civil rights violation.

I hope this doesn't have to go all the way to the Supreme court, but I'm afraid it will.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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Simple: Age is "competence-based" whereas race and religion are not. Why don't we sell tobacco, booze, and porn to children? The point it is to keep kids and others safe and not expose them to age-inappropriate stuff. I don't think any sane person would want a four-year-old child playing with a gun. The basic logic extends to background checks. Some people have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted with guns. Felons and people suffering sever emotional illness, for example. Consider the teen in Vermont who applauded the Florida shootings and was apparently planning to engage in a school shooting. In terms of straight-up common sense, no sane person really wants him to go out an buy a bunch of guns.

Vermont’s Governor Changes Position on Gun Laws After Thwarted School Shooting
https://www.wsj.com/articles/vermont...ing-1519339952

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Old 03-06-2018, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Just saying. Why not refuse to sell guns to blacks and Muslims based on the disproportionate involvement in homicide and terrorism? At least that has a more fact based nexus than age.
...lol...

Go back into your hole.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Race and religion are protected classes. Age is too, but only discrimination at age 40 or higher. All protected classes are listed here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_group

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Race – Civil Rights Act of 1964
Religion – Civil Rights Act of 1964
National origin – Civil Rights Act of 1964
Age (40 and over) – Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
Sex – Equal Pay Act of 1963 and Civil Rights Act of 1964
The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission interprets 'sex' to include discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity[2]
Pregnancy – Pregnancy Discrimination Act
Citizenship – Immigration Reform and Control Act
Familial status – Civil Rights Act of 1968 Title VIII: Housing cannot discriminate for having children, with an exception for senior housing
Disability status – Rehabilitation Act of 1973 and Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990
Veteran status – Vietnam Era Veterans' Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974 and Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act
Genetic information – Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: STL area
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Then you should be fine with refusing to sell them to all white men based on being the most likely to commit a mass shooting.... If we hold a race or gender responsible for the actions of a few what’s fair is fair. Perhaps only women should own guns.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Voluntary freedom of association.

Anyone should be able to choose with whom they choose to do business for any reason. It's their private property, and it is someone's natural right to be able to discriminate for any reason they see fit. Let the market sort out the winners and losers.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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We do this because age is a socially acceptable measure we use to determine one's ability to maturely handle doing an activity, whereas race and religion are not socially acceptable measures at the current time.

I personally believe that elderly people over age 70 should be given driving tests every 2 years to make sure they can still drive properly, because there are too many cases of elderly people plowing into crowds of people on accident. This is not age discrimination.. it's setting a standard of competency that we expect in order to operate a motor vehicle safely not only for the driver but people around said driver.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Very good question.

Refusing to sell a gun to someone based on age would seem to be a clear cut civil rights violation
Age Discrimination Suit Against Dick's Sporting Goods and Walmart for Refusing to Sell Rifle to 20-Year-Old - Volokh Conspiracy : Reason.com

dicks and Walmart are being sued for age discrimination. ha
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: United States
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Race and religion are protected classes. Age is too, but only discrimination at age 40 or higher. All protected classes are listed here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_group
He qualifies to purchase a firearm, and they are denying him, they are denying him his civil rights.
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