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Old 03-09-2018, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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How would fewer people paying in to SS "solve" it?
Because the same fewer people would collect. The only social security you can get if you never work is SSI or SSDI and you have to be too disabled to work permanently to get them
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Old 03-09-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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Because the same fewer people would collect. The only social security you can get if you never work is SSI or SSDI and you have to be too disabled to work permanently to get them
Actually a lot of people are on Disability that could still work. It's a huge problem. Almost 10% of West Virginia is on Disability. The top five states on Disability are in the South including West Virginia, Arkansas, Kentucky, Mississippi and Alabama. Disability includes Medicare too. Many have paid lawyers to get them Disability and some have been caught committing fraud in order to get it for them.

http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/
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Old 03-09-2018, 02:49 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Because the same fewer people would collect. The only social security you can get if you never work is SSI or SSDI and you have to be too disabled to work permanently to get them
But that would still be half of the workforce no longer paying into the system. And there's still the issue of SS survivors' benefits: for every male worker with an a stay-at-home wife, she collects after he dies, in spite of her not paying into the system.
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Old 03-09-2018, 02:57 PM
 
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But that would still be half of the workforce no longer paying into the system. And there's still the issue of SS survivors' benefits: for every male worker with an a stay-at-home wife, she collects after he dies, in spite of her not paying into the system.
Also - she would collect her own Social Security check that is 50% of his check - while he's alive, even if she never contributed a penny toward Social Security via her own work record.
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Old 03-09-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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The only social security you can get if you never work is SSI or SSDI and you have to be too disabled to work permanently to get them
SSI (Supplemental Security Income) really isn't Social Security. It's welfare. One must have a disability if under 65 as one of the qualifications for SSI. It's needs based regarding income and assets and it's for very poor people. The Social Security administration administers SSI, so it confuses many people into thinking it's Social Security. It's not.

This explains it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supple...ecurity_Income

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a United States government means-tested welfare program that provides cash assistance and health care coverage (i.e., Medicaid) to people with low-income and limited assets who are either aged 65 or older, blind, or disabled (children included)


https://www.disabilitysecrets.com/page5-13.html
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Old 03-09-2018, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to double the freaking labor pool by letting women work and even encourage it, wages will go down. Increase the supply, prices go down. It's common sense. The way forward is to encourage women to be women and have many many babies, stay home, and care for the home. This would solve social security as well. This is the path forward.
Women are not the reason wages are depressed, and you ought to consider that your life-style is heavily dependent upon women working.

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SSI (Supplemental Security Income) really isn't Social Security. It's welfare. One must have a disability if under 65 as one of the qualifications for SSI. It's needs based regarding income and assets and it's for very poor people. The Social Security administration administers SSI, so it confuses many people into thinking it's Social Security. It's not.

This explains it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supple...ecurity_Income

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a United States government means-tested welfare program that provides cash assistance and health care coverage (i.e., Medicaid) to people with low-income and limited assets who are either aged 65 or older, blind, or disabled (children included)


https://www.disabilitysecrets.com/page5-13.html
It currently pays a maximum of $750/month.
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Old 03-09-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to double the freaking labor pool by letting women work and even encourage it, wages will go down. Increase the supply, prices go down. It's common sense. The way forward is to encourage women to be women and have many many babies, stay home, and care for the home. This would solve social security as well. This is the path forward.
There is not a finite amount of currency, so your hypothesis is void.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to double the freaking labor pool by letting women work and even encourage it, wages will go down. Increase the supply, prices go down. It's common sense. The way forward is to encourage women to be women and have many many babies, stay home, and care for the home. This would solve social security as well. This is the path forward.
How many kids do you have?
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:54 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to double the freaking labor pool by letting women work and even encourage it, wages will go down. Increase the supply, prices go down. It's common sense. The way forward is to encourage women to be women and have many many babies, stay home, and care for the home. This would solve social security as well. This is the path forward.
"letting?"
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:58 PM
 
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You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to double the freaking labor pool by letting women work and even encourage it, wages will go down. Increase the supply, prices go down. It's common sense. The way forward is to encourage women to be women and have many many babies, stay home, and care for the home. This would solve social security as well. This is the path forward.


lol you're joking, right?
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