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Did the State do anything to minimize or outright ban potential alternatives for them?
What was the alternative? Back in the 1800s and early 1900s when the U.S was receiving thousands upon thousands of immigrants, many had little to no formal education, a poor grasp of English, and not much in the way of personal funds to fall back on.
While there were government and privately operated institutions similar to workhouses for the poor, disabled or truly destitute here in the U.S, most had rules that if you came, your children would be separated from you and sent to an orphanage. You'd likely also be separated from your spouse. This was the alternative to working, and actually, you'd still have to work if you were able bodied, but in exchange for board, not a paycheck. It was only an alternative for the extremely desperate.
Many of the factory workers of yesteryear had no choice to work in substandard conditions because they needed to work. Sure they could quit their job, but then how easy would it be to find another one? The next workplace may be even worse than the first.
Unions and labor regulations drastically improved the lives and working conditions for many.
So I rightfully flip the script. Prove that violating people's rights is necessary to keep people's food safe.
History has proven to us that government intervention is important to keep our food safe.
Another poster touched on it, but if you look back through history, you'll find that before regulations, all kinds of crazy things occurred in food prep, especially in poorer areas.
A big one was selling flour bulked out with sawdust, likewise with bread. Chalk and water were used to stretch milk.
In the 1860s in England, a study found that 1/5th of meat sold came from diseased animals and was unfit for consumption.
Food poisoning and disease from food borne illnesses was rife, prior to the days of government standards and inspection.
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History has proven to us that government intervention is important to keep our food safe.
Another poster touched on it, but if you look back through history, you'll find that before regulations, all kinds of crazy things occurred in food prep, especially in poorer areas.
A big one was selling flour bulked out with sawdust, likewise with bread. Chalk and water were used to stretch milk.
In the 1860s in England, a study found that 1/5th of meat sold came from diseased animals and was unfit for consumption.
Food poisoning and disease from food borne illnesses was rife, prior to the days of government standards and inspection.
It's as if they think that regulations just popped into existence out of thin air and weren't created in response to observed problems.
History has proven to us that government intervention is important to keep our food safe.
Another poster touched on it, but if you look back through history, you'll find that before regulations, all kinds of crazy things occurred in food prep, especially in poorer areas.
A big one was selling flour bulked out with sawdust, likewise with bread. Chalk and water were used to stretch milk.
In the 1860s in England, a study found that 1/5th of meat sold came from diseased animals and was unfit for consumption.
Food poisoning and disease from food borne illnesses was rife, prior to the days of government standards and inspection.
What's the proof that it was government regulation that took care of those issues? The state has taken credit for solving various problems that were already being solved (off the top of my head: child labor, wages, certain types of crime, etc. - and then things that actually got worse after state intervention - the war on poverty, war on drugs, war on terror, war on anything ).
And for the record, I'm not saying government regulation never stops bad things from happening, because it does in some cases. If the state had a mandated 1 child policy for everyone (or fill in the blank there), I'm sure there would be some benefits to that, but is it so necessary that it overrules people's individual rights?
If you're an illegal with a food cart selling fruit covered with flies or corn on the cob with mayo on a hot day, no need to worry about no stinkin' food laws.
It's as if they think that regulations just popped into existence out of thin air and weren't created in response to observed problems.
As said in my last post, the state likes to take credit for problems that had already been improving, and then they teach in school, which they coincidentally are in charge of, that they were the great saviors.
Kind of off topic, but it's so weird to me that people don't take that point seriously. It's like if Walmart ran the schools and you had to pledge allegiance to Walmart, learn about all the past CEOs of Walmart, and they taught kids that Walmart played a large role in improving society...whether it's true or not, you'd have to be extremely skeptical.
If you're an illegal with a food cart selling fruit covered with flies or corn on the cob with mayo on a hot day, no need to worry about no stinkin' food laws.
Mayonnaise is shelf stable so it does not need to be refrigerated for safety, it's strictly a quality issue.
I no longer like eating-out......because most places that sell food do not seem that clean/sanitary. I spent 3 hours on Reddit reading the most disgusting stories written by health-inspectors and others who work in food-related fields...........OH MY!!!!
Yes, I think food safety-inspections are a very good thing.
You really don't have to tell me about food trucks, I assure you.
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