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Old 03-10-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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And he didn't use a gun did he.
He didn't wait for government to defend him either, did he?

 
Old 03-10-2018, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Xwb1ZhoDk


Threaten to kill me & my family, then raise your hand... Same thing is happening.

See, that kinda kills your knives being as dangerous as gun argument, doesn't it , BB ? If that man had a gun, Tommy would have been shot, but the guy had to get close enough for Tommy to hit him.

Thanks for making our argument for us !
 
Old 03-10-2018, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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Who is Tommy Robinson?
 
Old 03-10-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Who is Tommy Robinson?
Robinson is an activist who warns about the dangers of radical Islam.

Robinson's not a bad bloke, he just need to channel his energies in to a political cause, as I am sure a lot of people would support him if he set up a political party based on some of his views, just as a lot of people supported Brexit.

Robsinson is not racist or Nazi, he just doesn't like radical Islam but who does.

Sadly Robinson seeme to attract all kinds of nutters and has been in more fights than Mike Tyson.

Tommy Robinson (activist) - Wikipedia
 
Old 03-10-2018, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Asia
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The black man was turned away from him.

That was a sucker punch.

The white guy should be charged with assault.
Legally speaking, the black guy was assaulting the white guy by threatening to batter the white guy.

The white guy acted in self defense.

ASSAULT: An unlawful attempt or offer. on the part of one man, with force or violence, to inflict a bodily hurt upon another. An attempt or offer to beat another, without touching him; as if one lifts up his cane or his fist in a threatening manner at another...

SELF DEFENSE: The protection of one’s person or property against some injury attempted by another. The right of such protection. An excuse for the use of force in resisting an attack on the person...
 
Old 03-10-2018, 10:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
And he didn't use a gun did he.
So what?

If Tommy were an old man or a small woman that violent thug would have made good on his threats.

When it comes to being threatened will physical harm or death on the streets the Marquess of Queensberry Rules don't apply.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 10:41 PM
 
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And he didn't use a gun did he.
No, he didn't.
How nice that he was able to defend himself.


Self-defense is a basic human right.
Strange that some folks wish to remove that right from others.
What an odd world we live in.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 10:57 PM
 
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No, he didn't.
How nice that he was able to defend himself.


Self-defense is a basic human right.
Strange that some folks wish to remove that right from others.
What an odd world we live in.
Anyone who takes a self defense class knows how to defend themselves without a gun. And if they are in close range with a guy with a gun trying to rob you, you can still take them down. No one believes in self defense here though.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 11:12 PM
 
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See, that kinda kills your knives being as dangerous as gun argument, doesn't it , BB ? If that man had a gun, Tommy would have been shot, but the guy had to get close enough for Tommy to hit him.

Thanks for making our argument for us !
What argument? The completely unrealistic one that assumes we can actually get rid of our guns and only have to deal with knife wielding people with new laws? With all the guns already in this country? Yeah, no one with common sense takes that argument seriously because we know it wouldn’t work, and would create a new black market that would make Prohibition look like child’s play. See Mexico and Brazil and El Salvador for examples. They have strict gun laws, and look what good it does them.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 11:30 PM
 
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Robinson is an activist who warns about the dangers of radical Islam.

Robinson's not a bad bloke, he just need to channel his energies in to a political cause, as I am sure a lot of people would support him if he set up a political party based on some of his views, just as a lot of people supported Brexit.

Robsinson is not racist or Nazi, he just doesn't like radical Islam but who does.

Sadly Robinson seeme to attract all kinds of nutters and has been in more fights than Mike Tyson.

Tommy Robinson (activist) - Wikipedia
I watched a speech he gave where he talked about what was happening in his town. I do feel for him. He is called a racist and a nazi when what he was doing was in response to the radical elements in his town who disrespected the British military and had grooming gangs taking young girls and turning them into junkies and then prostitutes. His own cousin was one of the girls caught up in that, and police did nothing for years.

If he was of a different class, I wonder if people would have taken him more seriously. Then again, if he was of a different class, the migrants he knew would be the more educated and less radical type, so he wouldn’t be making the argument at all. I imagine it would be a hard pill to swallow having a massive population of migrants put in a town that already had problems, and the police treating the new people better than the natives out of fear of being called racists.

He talked about people getting bricks thrown into their houses or set on fire to force them out of the neighborhoods. He talked of a father and a brother of a 12-year old girl taken to live at a home with the grooming gangs who went there to retrieve their daughter/sister, only to have the police arrest them instead because they had been drinking. I’m sure there is more to that story, but one could understand why the father and brother of the girl went there (and even why drinking may have given them the courage to do so). And why it bred resentment when they were the ones punished.

Unfortunately, the story of the police ignoring the grooming gang and arresting the girl’s family is all too believable after the revelations of the Rotherham police ignoring the same types of problems for two decades just because they didn’t want to be seen as racist or cause more problems in the community.

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