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Old 03-12-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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Which journalism school did Anderson Cooper, Jim Acosta or Jake Tapper attend?
Not sure about Cooper or Tapper but Jim Acosta went to the Ted Baxter School of Journalism and Cosmetology
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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If Brittany Pettibone is a 'journalist', where did she attend journalism school?


This was brought up in two other thread about Timmy Robinson or such. I looked up Ms. Pettibone, and while she claimed to was going to the UK to interview Mr. Robinson, I did not see where she had presented any credentials that she is a journalist.


She appears simply to be a right-wing adherent. That she gives her opinion on YouTube and other social media, does not a journalist make.
So, because she doesn't work for CNN, she should be detained for 3 days because she wanted to interview Tommy Robinson?


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Not sure about Cooper or Tapper but Jim Acosta went to the Ted Baxter School of Journalism and Cosmetology
That explains a lot, Jim must have a Cosmetology degree.

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Old 03-12-2018, 02:18 PM
 
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Independent journalist Brittany Pettibone, and her boyfriend Martin Sellner, were detained entering the UK, and held for three days.

Their "crimes", Miss Pettibone was going to interview Tommy Robinson, and Mr Sellner was going to give a speech at a free speech conference.

The UK has now made if very clear, it is no longer safe to travel to the UK if you have certain political views.

Why isn't the msm reporting this?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPzzr0LpeuU
Let me ask you:
Do you think these people were detained simply because they were off to give a speech, or could it be because one of them is a known far right activist, and the other one was going to interview a far right activist?
If the UK deems a person or persons of a different nationality as a national security risk, or part of a hate group, should they have the right to detain them or not?
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:58 PM
 
Location: United States
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Let me ask you:
Do you think these people were detained simply because they were off to give a speech, or could it be because one of them is a known far right activist, and the other one was going to interview a far right activist?
If the UK deems a person or persons of a different nationality as a national security risk, or part of a hate group, should they have the right to detain them or not?
Provide some evidence that these people are part of some hate group.

Leaning to the right doesn't make someone part of a hate group.

Sellner was there to speak at an internationally renown free speech conference.

Brittany Pettibone was there to conduct an interview.

Does a CNN reporter interviewing a member of ANTIFA make them part of a terrorist group?

Lastly, if the UK is going to deny them entry, that's bad enough, but to detain them for 3 days is inexcusable.
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Old 03-12-2018, 06:25 PM
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All three have been to the UK previously, however the fact that the event had been cancelled and that his planned speech and any gathering could have led to violence between the Alt-right and Antifa could have been the reasoning.

Lauren Southern was recently in Scotland covering the rather stupid case of the man whose dog gave a Hitler Salute. The case was adjourned until later this month and the video is posted on her youtube website.

Whilst Martin Sellner and Brittany Pettibone, has been to the UK before, indeed they were in London along with Anne Marie Waters as part of the Traditional Britain Groups London 2017 conference.

However since then Sellner featured in a British Television Documentary about the Far Right in Britain and Europe (as reported below) and this may have raised awareness among the authorities.

UK far-right activists attend military-style camps with anti-Islam group - The Guardian (8th November 2017)

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Old 03-13-2018, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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I don't know much about Sellner, but Pettibone, and Southern are independent journalist.

None of the three have any ties to terrorist groups that I'm aware of.
I am only familiar with Pettibone, but she is an open anti-semite and white nationalist. While she was there to interview an activist, she is an activist in her own right. After the murder of MP Jo Cox by a white supremacist terrorist, the UK has paid careful attention to not allowing those, like Sellner, Pettibone, and Southern, who incite hatred and inspire future acts of terrorism.
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:17 AM
 
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Bannon was in France giving the closest Hitler impersonation during a speech I have ever seen.
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:34 AM
 
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I don't know much about any of the three, however there has been a crack down on right wing groups since the murder of MP Jo Cox in 2016 and the banning of ultra right wing group National Action, which is now deemed a terrorist organisation.

Right Wing terrorism has been a concern of the security services since the "London Nail Bomber" David Copeland in 1999 and 2011 Norway Attacks.
I just LOVE how anyone who doesn't tow the line these days is labeled, 'right wing, far right' or as you said 'ultra right wing' even if they're really not. The media especially is guilty of this as living in Canada our news outlets here simply love to say 'far right group' when they're talking about groups or people who may or may not actually be 'far right'. On the otherhand these same outlets RARELY save 'far left', but rather they call them 'anti-facists' or 'anti-racists'.

And also how utterly hypocritical is it that one or two attacks by people supposedly linked to 'far right' groups automatically means they're ALL violent and evil and are people that need to be suppressed and wiped out and yet we have multiple terrorist attacks by Muslims in addition to the rape gangs, the crime and violence from them and those same UK leaders LOOK THE OTHER WAY and try to minimize the amount of damage they're doing to the British public.

- A couple of attacks by right wing groups = they're ALL bad and violent and hateful and they must be dealt with

- Mulitple acts of violence, crime and terrorism by Muslims every year = not every Muslim is bad! Its ONLY A FEW BAD APPLES. WE MUST NOT generalize and say all Muslims are bad

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Let me ask you:
Do you think these people were detained simply because they were off to give a speech, or could it be because one of them is a known far right activist, and the other one was going to interview a far right activist?
If the UK deems a person or persons of a different nationality as a national security risk, or part of a hate group, should they have the right to detain them or not?
If UK officials actually believed in protecting its nation and their people and preventing individuals from inciting hate and extremism then why was this person allowed in the UK:

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A Pakistani Muslim cleric who celebrated the murder of a popular politician is in Britain on a speaking tour of mosques. The news has alarmed social cohesion experts who fear such tours are promoting divisions in the Muslim community.


Syed Muzaffar Shah Qadri has been banned from preaching in Pakistan because his sermons are considered too incendiary. However, he is due to visit a number of English mosques, in heavily promoted events where he is given star billing.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ing-in-britain

Too extreme for Pakistan, but somehow he was allowed in anyways and you're saying UK officials were keeping out Southern, Pettibone and Sellner were a 'threat' for inciting hate and/or extremism?! Really?!?!?! >_>


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I am only familiar with Pettibone, but she is an open anti-semite and white nationalist. While she was there to interview an activist, she is an activist in her own right. After the murder of MP Jo Cox by a white supremacist terrorist, the UK has paid careful attention to not allowing those, like Sellner, Pettibone, and Southern, who incite hatred and inspire future acts of terrorism.
So the UK is concerned about supposed 'right wing' activists inciting hate and violence and yet they're NOT concerned about Muslims who have carried out ACTUAL TERRORIST ATTACKS?!? They're NOT concerned about the above mentioned Syed Qadri and his extremist views and speeches?? How messed up is that?!!

Yes Southern, Pettibone and Sellner are such high risk threats that they MUST be detained and deported and yet one of the London bridge attackers was let in no problem:

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Giuseppe Amato, the chief prosecutor in Bologna, told the Guardian that information about the risk Zaghba posed was shared with officials in the UK after he had tried to travel from Italy to join Islamic State in Syria in March 2016.


Zaghba’s name was placed on a Europe-wide database that included potential extremists. But the warning about the 22-year old who helped kill eight people and injure 48 more on Saturday night appears not to have been picked up. Scotland Yard has said he “was not a police or MI5 subject of interest”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ays-prosecutor
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:37 AM
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I just LOVE how anyone who doesn't tow the line these days is labeled, 'right wing, far right' or as you said 'ultra right wing' even if they're really not. The media especially is guilty of this as living in Canada our news outlets here simply love to say 'far right group' when they're talking about groups or people who may or may not actually be 'far right'. On the otherhand these same outlets RARELY save 'far left', but rather they call them 'anti-facists' or 'anti-racists'.
Hang on National Action supported the killing of MP Jo Cox and stated she had it coming, they also claimed Hitler didn't go far enough with his plans, is that not Ultra Right Wing.

Britain has had Right Wing bombers in the past such as David Copeland, the London Nail Bomber who targeted ethnic areas and gay bars in 1999, he killed three people and injured over 140, with many having life changing injuries.

A member of National Action had his house in Leeds raided before they were banned and the poluce had to call in Army Bomb Disposal as he had made a pipe bomb.

We are not messing around with terrorist groups whatever their political or religous views.

The equivalent of the Far Right, is the Hard Left and the mainsteam media has little time for them either or groups such as Antifa.

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Old 03-13-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Independent journalist Brittany Pettibone, and her boyfriend Martin Sellner, were detained entering the UK, and held for three days.

Their "crimes", Miss Pettibone was going to interview Tommy Robinson, and Mr Sellner was going to give a speech at a free speech conference.

The UK has now made if very clear, it is no longer safe to travel to the UK if you have certain political views.

Why isn't the msm reporting this?
Probably because Americans (First) don't care about much outside their narrow little world or the country and tend to tune it out. And there are more important things going on in Europe and the UK.

But how is banning those who incite hate and/or violence from coming into a country different than banning them based on a religion as Trump has?

I'm much more concerned about the current admins violations of ethics rules and the Constitution.
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