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Old 03-12-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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Just for starters:

tRump
Putin
13 indicted Russkies

Carry on.

Factually incorrect.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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Yet another logical fallacy. You realize that Manafort, Gates, and Flynn have NOT been indicted for election meddling, right?

We are NOT opposed to finding out if there is collusion. But what we know so far is that there is ZERO evidence of any and we are not intent on letting Mueller witch hunt his way to an indictment on something completely irrelevant to the basis for the special prosecutor.
Explain to me please according to your logic: how in the world do you know what Gates and Flynn gave to Mueller on Trump's collusion?

Do you think Mueller offered them plea deal for what, story about what they watched on Netflix?

How much fish larger than Flynn or Manafort swims in the trump's swamp?

There are at least 3 known plea deals that Mueller offered, only because all of them had something significant to offer on Trump and co.

What it is we dont know, but you certainly can't say you know there is nothing as long as the investigatipn is not even half way through.

How do you know Manafort charges for money laundering and dealings with Russian oligarchs have no connection to Trump? Are you a mole on Mueller's team?

Laughable. Either you're gullible and really believe Mueller and top prosecutors on this contintent are throwing lenient plea deals for nothing, or just wilfully ignorant.

Especially since you know zero about what Mueller has. And still claim there is nothing lol.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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Yes, there have been indictments from Muellers investigation. None of those have anything to do with President Trump and collusion with Russia or any other entity.
Muellers investigative team is biased. That is why members of that team have had to resign, for being biased and corrupt.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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Yes, there have been indictments from Muellers investigation. None of those have anything to do with President Trump and collusion with Russia or any other entity.
Muellers investigative team is biased. That is why members of that team have had to resign, for being biased and corrupt.
Yeah, and at least 3 plea deals for convicted trump associates were offered by the most aggressive prosecutors in the US for a bag of cereals. Sure, nothing there.

They must have just offered info on what trump and co watch on Hulu and fox news, and the team that took down Russian mafia, Enron, and others just got excited!
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Sorry, you are lying to state that democrats are not a driving force in the investigation. You aren't effectively calling anyone out, but instead ineffectively muddying the waters with meaningless poor arguments.

Are you stating that the force of the Democratic political machine, to include the media and higher level politicians, are not driving the investigation?

I
Yep. Mueller may be a democrat or a republican, and it makes no difference. He is known on both sides of the aisle as a man who is absolutely apolitical in discharging the duties of his job.

I, and others, have stated here before that is Mueller's final verdict is that there was no wrongdoing, we will accept it, and I will publicly apologize for all the things I have said about Trump. If Trump is guilty, we will expect the same from his supporters.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Confessed to... what?
You tell me. If he is innocent, he has a funny way of demonstrating it.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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Explain to me please according to your logic: how in the world do you know what Gates and Flynn gave to Mueller on Trump's collusion?

Do you think Mueller offered them plea deal for what, story about what they watched on Netflix?

How much fish larger than Flynn or Manafort swims in the trump's swamp?

There are at least 3 known plea deals that Mueller offered, only because all of them had something significant to offer on Trump and co.

What it is we dont know, but you certainly can't say you know there is nothing as long as the investigatipn is not even half way through.

How do you know Manafort charges for money laundering and dealings with Russian oligarchs have no connection to Trump? Are you a mole on Mueller's team?

Laughable. Either you're gullible and really believe Mueller and top prosecutors on this contintent are throwing lenient plea deals for nothing, or just wilfully ignorant.

Especially since you know zero about what Mueller has. And still claim there is nothing lol.
Flynn is the only one that got a plea deal. Not Manafort. The Gates plea puts pressure on Manafort, not Trump. And Flynn wasn't hired until AFTER the election. As a lobbyist for Turkey, there's ZERO chance that Flynn has evidence of Russia collusion. You have been watching too much Rachel Maddow it seems.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Factually incorrect.
Prove it.

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Old 03-12-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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Yeah, and at least 3 plea deals for convicted trump associates were offered by the most aggressive prosecutors in the US for a bag of cereals. Sure, nothing there.

They must have just offered info on what trump and co watch on Hulu and fox news, and the team that took down Russian mafia, Enron, and others just got excited!

The indictments against the associates have nothing to do with President Trump and collusion with Russia. They are indictments for unrelated items to any Russian collusion or President Trump.
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Old 03-12-2018, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The indictments against the associates have nothing to do with President Trump and collusion with Russia. They are indictments for unrelated items to any Russian collusion or President Trump.


They are also quite excellent tools for extracting information on other crimes they have knowledge of in exchange for leniency in sentencing, hence the term "plea deal". You tell me what you know about Russian collusion, you serve 13 months instead of 20 years. Make yourself happy. If you don't want the deal, there are fifteen others who do.
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