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View Poll Results: Which states have the highest Gun related death rates?
Those with the most restrictive gun laws. 37 55.22%
Those with the least restrictive gun laws. 30 44.78%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-15-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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You know what "per capita" means, right? Alaska had 177 deaths and a population of about 700,000, so that's about 1 in 4000 people. Massachusetts has a much higher population (6.5 million) so their rate is only 1 in 27,000. Or put another way, AK = 25 per 100,000 and MA = 3.7 per 100,000. Massachusett's rate is almost seven times lower than Alaska's. California has more people than Texas, ,so their rate is significantly lower than Texas'.
No, they don't understand math. It's hard.
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Old 03-15-2018, 02:57 PM
 
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America’s gun homicide rate is more than 25 times the average of other high-income countries.
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This does not address the specific question of the OP (no breakdown by states), but I just found this interesting interactive on 538 website about firearm deaths. They explain their method of collecting DATA on the main page.

What is most interesting is the fact that almost two-thirds of gun deaths are suicides. This is the kind of information congress ordered the CDC to stop researching, at the prodding of the NRA. They still get copies of death certificates.

Again, I thought it worthwhile to make available here.
Since I last posted this more than twenty seven and a half hours have passed.

Approximately 110 of our fellow citizens have died by firearms. Eight of them were probably children.
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Almost two thirds are suicides (11,726 of 33,599)?

So if a guy finds out he has a terminal disease and doesn't feel like sticking around for all the fun, he has to find a building to jump off or the anti-gun nuts won't be happy?
Is it a gun that precipitated the death? That's gun related, doesn't matter if it's suicide or not.
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: SC
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The safest states in the country are VT, NH, and ME. And they don't have restrictive gun laws yet.
Are you sure about that? <-- Admittedly this is a little older.

What I read is that Vermont has few gun restrictions, but falls in the middle of the pack for gun deaths. New Hampshire and Maine are in the on the border between the first and second quarter.

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Old 03-15-2018, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Is it a gun that precipitated the death? That's gun related, doesn't matter if it's suicide or not.
Guns don't have intent, nor will, nor do they act on their own and "precipitate" anything. It takes somebody to WANT to pull the trigger, and then act upon that will. It is a people problem, not a gun problem.

When someone takes a truck and drives through a crowd of people (which happened not long ago in NYC killing eight) did the truck precipitate the deaths?
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Guns don't have intent, nor will, nor do they act on their own and "precipitate" anything. It takes somebody to WANT to pull the trigger, and then act upon that will. It is a people problem, not a gun problem.

When someone takes a truck and drives through a crowd of people (which happened not long ago in NYC killing eight) did the truck precipitate the deaths?
Badly phrased. Was a gun used? That's a gun related death.
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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Are you sure about that? <-- Admittedly this is a little older.

What I read is that Vermont has few gun restrictions, but falls in the middle of the pack for gun deaths. New Hampshire and Maine are in the on the border between the first and second quarter.
Do you really believe your safety is impacted by someone else committing suicide?

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The Health Department data indicated nearly all the gun deaths in Vermont are the result of suicides. In 2011, just four of the 78 gun deaths were homicides. In 2010, two of the 70 gun deaths were homicides.
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: SC
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Do you really believe your safety is impacted by someone else committing suicide?
Why does this have to be about my safety - or yours?
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Old 03-15-2018, 04:28 PM
 
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Saw an interesting meme yesterday couldn't find it but it was essentially If you took a piece of land with the exact same population as Australia out of the upper-midwest/Upper great plains ND, SD, ID, MN, UT, IA you would have the highest gun ownership rate in the world and the lowest gun homicide rate in the developed world while being significantly more densely populated than Australia.
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Old 03-15-2018, 04:33 PM
 
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That's it, the only question here...
Flawed logic. First an opinion poll is distinctly stupid when we have actual data.

And are we going to discuss all deaths by guns? Exclude suicides? Compare by population or overall?

What makes a state considered strict? The number of laws or how strict each law is?

These need to be decided upon before you can have a meaningful discussion.
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