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Old 03-17-2018, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Whatever It Takes.
yep that is what the fascist liberals are waiting for


the fascist liberals never let a crisis go to waste

they will do anything they possibly can to bring their brand of communism/socialism/fascism.... and they know they need to take away the guns..all legal guns...that is the way to control the people

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When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. – Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President of the United States
the 2nd amendment is very specific...the RIGHT of the PEOPLE shall not be INFRINGED

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""""That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals ..."""-- James Madison

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This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future! – Adolph Hitler, 1935, on The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany




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"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subordinate people to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subordinate people to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations



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"Waiting periods are only a step.
Registration is only a step.
The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.
" Janet Reno



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"Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed
when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed
." Sarah Brady





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"We're bending the law as far as we can
to ban... guns.
" Rahm Emmanuel



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"There is no reason for anyone in this country -- anyone except a police officer or military person -- to buy, to own, to have, to use a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns." Bill Clinton




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"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device
to deny gun ownership to the people.
" Vladimir Ilyich Lenin




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"If the opposition (citizen) disarms, well and good.
If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves." Josef Stalin
interesting how the liberals, fascists, nazi's, communists are the ones who want gun control....hmm
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Old 03-17-2018, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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workingclasshero
interesting how the liberals, fascists, nazi's, communists are the ones who want gun control....hmm
Even more interesting is them claiming that: "nobody's interested in taking away anyone's guns". That's what infuriates me more than anything. That they think we're so stupid to believe them and will fall for anything. I guess it takes one to know one?

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Stefan Molyneux said it best:
"If you are for gun control, then you're not against guns, because guns
 will be needed to disarm people. You'll need to go around, pass laws, and shoot people who resist, kick in doors, and throw people in jail, and so on; rip up families, just to take away guns.
So it's not that you're anti-gun, because you'll need the police's guns to take away other people's guns, so in actuality, you are very pro-gun, you just believe that only the government
 (which is of course so reliable, honest, moral, virtuous, and forward-thinking)
 should be allowed to have guns.
So there's no such thing as gun control, there's only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small political elite and their minions.
Gun control is a misnomer."
Liberals wish to enslave us to their Socialist agenda through government dependency. There's no other rational reason for continuing to import through open borders tens of millions more of the world's indigent and impoverished populations other than to increase the poverty level to unsustainable proportions. A growing population that the middle class will be forced to support. Which will push them further down the economic ladder to the point where they too will become dependent on the government in order to eke out some semblance of a standard of living.

Socialism/Liberalism has been an abject failure wherever it has been in practice. As more and more people become dependent on the government eventually they will run out of other people's money. The money has to come from somewhere? Or should they just print more of it like they did in Germany before the war? Equality for all? They must mean equally shared misery? Equality for all will destroy an individuals desire to succeed or achieve a better life for themselves. Why would anyone want to bother if someone else is taking care of their every need? Why would anyone want to work harder knowing that the fruits of their labor will be evenly distributed to those who are content to sit on their dead ass and do nothing but take, take, take while continuing to demand more?

I like to post this from time to time. I don't know who wrote it:
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"There are only a few laws in history that are universally applicable. One of these is that the ruling classes do not want the peasantry armed. They will do what they can to convince you that to be armed is dangerous. They will attempt to do this while they themselves are surrounded by armed body guards. Idiots will not notice this hypocrisy and sycophants will ignore it. Fools will surrender their arms in the name of "safety". They will insensibly surrender their liberty at the same time. This is how slaves are made".
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Old 03-17-2018, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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And California, and some other Enemy, Occupied, Communist states, and CITIES.
My post specifically addressed the fact that SCOTUS has not agreed to grant certiorari to any state or local assault weapons bans, as well as a number of other cases related to CCW issuance, open carry laws etc. It would help if you stayed on topic
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Old 03-17-2018, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Even more interesting is them claiming that: "nobody's interested in taking away anyone's guns". That's what infuriates me more than anything. That they think we're so stupid to believe them and will fall for anything. I guess it takes one to know one?



Liberals wish to enslave us to their Socialist agenda through government dependency. There's no other rational reason for continuing to import through open borders tens of millions more of the world's indigent and impoverished populations other than to increase the poverty level to unsustainable proportions. A growing population that the middle class will be forced to support. Which will push them further down the economic ladder to the point where they too will become dependent on the government in order to eke out some semblance of a standard of living.

Socialism/Liberalism has been an abject failure wherever it has been in practice. As more and more people become dependent on the government eventually they will run out of other people's money. The money has to come from somewhere? Or should they just print more of it like they did in Germany before the war? Equality for all? They must mean equally shared misery? Equality for all will destroy an individuals desire to succeed or achieve a better life for themselves. Why would anyone want to bother if someone else is taking care of their every need? Why would anyone want to work harder knowing that the fruits of their labor will be evenly distributed to those who are content to sit on their dead ass and do nothing but take, take, take while continuing to demand more?

I like to post this from time to time. I don't know who wrote it:

the other thing they don't realize/or do realize is:

that by eliminating / revising the 2nd amendment to eliminate the weapons........... all for safety.....by banning of guns and confiscation.


would also require eliminating / revising the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments....its mighty fascist of them
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Old 03-17-2018, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Even more interesting is them claiming that: "nobody's interested in taking away anyone's guns". That's what infuriates me more than anything. That they think we're so stupid to believe them and will fall for anything. I guess it takes one to know one?

Liberals wish to enslave us to their Socialist agenda through government dependency. There's no other rational reason for continuing to import through open borders tens of millions more of the world's indigent and impoverished populations other than to increase the poverty level to unsustainable proportions. A growing population that the middle class will be forced to support. Which will push them further down the economic ladder to the point where they too will become dependent on the government in order to eke out some semblance of a standard of living.

Socialism/Liberalism has been an abject failure wherever it has been in practice. As more and more people become dependent on the government eventually they will run out of other people's money. The money has to come from somewhere? Or should they just print more of it like they did in Germany before the war? Equality for all? They must mean equally shared misery? Equality for all will destroy an individuals desire to succeed or achieve a better life for themselves. Why would anyone want to bother if someone else is taking care of their every need? Why would anyone want to work harder knowing that the fruits of their labor will be evenly distributed to those who are content to sit on their dead ass and do nothing but take, take, take while continuing to demand more?

I like to post this from time to time. I don't know who wrote it:
I don't know who wrote it either but in my opinion it's not worth quoting. And it's business and agra lobbyists who want open borders, not "liberals". Do some homework into why Rick Scott abandoned his campaign promise to make e-verify mandatory (hint: it wasn't liberals)

PS no one wants to take your guns away, that's just stupid.
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Old 03-17-2018, 06:47 PM
 
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Even more interesting is them claiming that: "nobody's interested in taking away anyone's guns". That's what infuriates me more than anything. That they think we're so stupid to believe them and will fall for anything. I guess it takes one to know one?
Gaslighters.

People think a holocaust cannot happen in the US. Other countries may have thought that one time too.
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Old 03-17-2018, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I don't know who wrote it either but in my opinion it's not worth quoting. And it's business and agra lobbyists who want open borders, not "liberals". Do some homework into why Rick Scott abandoned his campaign promise to make e-verify mandatory (hint: it wasn't liberals)

PS no one wants to take your guns away, that's just stupid.
Of course they do. You must have been sleeping.

As far as the illegal invaders go: How do you explain the situation in California being designated a sanctuary state? Do some homework and see which party rules that state with an iron fist. (hint: It's not Republicans.) Business and agra lobbyists do play a part I'll concede to that.

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Regarding California:
Guess which state has the highest poverty rate in the country? Not Mississippi, New Mexico, or West Virginia, but California, where nearly one out of five residents is poor. That’s according to the Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure, which factors in the cost of housing, food, utilities and clothing, and which includes noncash government assistance as a form of income.

Given robust job growth and the prosperity generated by several industries, it’s worth asking why California has fallen behind, especially when the state’s per-capita GDP increased approximately twice as much as the U.S. average over the five years ending in 2016 (12.5%, compared with 6.27%).

It’s not as though California policymakers have neglected to wage war on poverty. Sacramento and local governments have spent massive amounts in the cause. Several state and municipal benefit programs overlap with one another; in some cases, individuals with incomes 200% above the poverty line receive benefits. California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments and “other public welfare,” according to the Census Bureau.

California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation’s welfare recipients.---Kerry Jackson is the Pacific Research Institute’s fellow in California studies. Guess which party runs that state? (hint: It's not Republicans.)
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Care to guess which state has the highest number of illegal invaders?
Estimated illegal immigrant population, by state, 2014 | Pew ...
http://www.pewhispanic.org/interacti...ed-immigrants/
Nov 3, 2016 ... California has by far the largest number of unauthorized immigrants, about 2.3 million in 2014. Care to guess again who runs the State of California? (hint: It's not Republicans.)
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Regarding New York:
Gov. Andrew Cuomo rolled out an array of programs aimed at helping *immigrants residing in New York to become citizens—which he vowed would change the demographics and POLITICS of the Empire State.

The governor unveiled his new NaturalizeNY agenda at John *Jay College of Criminal Justice in Manhattan this afternoon, and claimed the package of joint public-private initiatives would lubricate the process of becoming a full-fledged American for as many as one million green card-holders across the state. *NaturalizeNY* will offer eligibility screenings, preparatory courses for the citizenship exam, help completing forms and run a lottery that would pay the $680 federal fee for 2,000 randomly chosen lower-middle-income immigrants.

“Just think about that. Just think about how it would change the state. Change the complexion of the state. One million people added to the 18 million people who are now citizens in the state of New York,” the governor said, alluding to the state’s long history as the entryway to America for new arrivals from foreign lands. *“Maybe the complexion changes. Maybe the religion changes. Maybe the accent changes. But the lesson stays the same. Welcome to this beautiful state of New York.”

The governor insisted that access to the voting booth is an integral benefit of *citizenship, and suggested conservative lawmakers have deliberately* inserted unnecessary hurdles into the process.
“You add one million citizens to the voting rolls in this state, that’s a significant, significant difference. You do that nationwide, it’s a significant difference,” he said. *“So if you have your conspiracy hat on, you’d say some people would say they have kept it purposely difficult to become a citizen.” Guess what party Gov. Cuomo belongs to? (hint: It's not Republican.) NO POLITICAL AGENDA THERE THOUGH?
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To be sure, members of Congress do get elected by their constituents. But do their constituents include illegal immigrants in their districts? Many members appear to believe so, even though those illegals do not get to vote for them. This raises thorny issues about the nature of representation in a democracy. But even before considering these, it is worth stopping to consider how those gerrymandered congressional districts rely on census population data that routinely include illegal immigrants. One result is that many of the 32 or so Hispanic-majority congressional districts include substantial numbers of illegal immigrants.

A good example is California’s 34th District, represented by congressman Xavier Becerra, quoted above. After the recent redistricting, the 34th is over 65 percent Hispanic, and includes Los Angeles suburbs like Huntington Park and Bell Gardens that are classic ports of entry for illegal immigrants. So while in November 2012 voter turnout in congressional districts across California averaged about 250,000, in the 34th it was only 140,590. And for a variety of reasons, this was an unusually high turnout. In previous years, Becerra’s vote totals were substantially lower. Thus, the American version of “rotten boroughs” is directly attributable to aggregated numbers of illegal immigrants. --https://www.brookings.edu/articles/no-kidding-republicans-democrats-and-illegal-immigrants/. Guess which party Xavier Becerra belongs to? (hint: It's not Republican.)

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Old 03-17-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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Of course they do. You must have been sleeping.

As far as the illegal invaders go: How do you explain the situation in California being designated a sanctuary state? Do some homework and see which party rules that state with an iron fist. (hint: It's not Republicans.) Business and agra lobbyists do play a part I'll concede to that.
California is not the only sanctuary state

California
Colorado
Illinois
New Mexico
Oregon
Vermont

And there are sanctuary cities in counties in very red states here you go, see for yourself:
https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities...ies-and-States

But you probably don't even understand what "sanctuary" means as it applies to a state or municipality, it does not mean that in California we all hide illegals in the attic

And no I'm not sleeping which is just too clever by half
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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California is not the only sanctuary state

California
Colorado
Illinois
New Mexico
Oregon
Vermont

And there are sanctuary cities in counties in very red states here you go, see for yourself:
https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities...ies-and-States

But you probably don't even understand what "sanctuary" means as it applies to a state or municipality, it does not mean that in California we all hide illegals in the attic

And no I'm not sleeping which is just too clever by half
I never said it was. Care to guess who the governors are in four of those six states? (hint: It's not Republicans)
Nor did I ever say there weren't any sanctuary cities within "Red" states. Care to guess which party the majority of mayors of those cities belong to? (hint: It's not Republicans)

No they don't hide them in the attic they just don't cooperate with ICE. Ever hear of Kate Steinle?

I think you'd better wake up. Your moniker speaks volumes about you.
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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California is not the only sanctuary state

California
Colorado
Illinois
New Mexico
Oregon
Vermont

And there are sanctuary cities in counties in very red states here you go, see for yourself:
https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities...ies-and-States

But you probably don't even understand what "sanctuary" means as it applies to a state or municipality, it does not mean that in California we all hide illegals in the attic

And no I'm not sleeping which is just too clever by half
1. sanctuary cities/states are treasonous

2. the federal law supersedes state laws, and aiding and abetting, or harboring , aka not sharing or limiting the information given is a violation of federal law.

3. Immigration laws and quotas are passed and set by the US Congress in Washington, D.C.. Yes, the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate establish all immigration laws and quotas, which is signed by POTUS. This is an indisputable fact ……

by the letter of the law, a city or state with a sanctuary is/will be in violation of that law

A “Sanctuary City” is a City whose local Government has instructed its employees to openly violate the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act passed by the US Congress. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8


I understand that you or other fascist liberals might not see it that way, but that is the truth


and let's not forget how many ILLEGAL GUNS cross the border daily... which means banning LEGAL guns will do NOTHING
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