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Old 03-19-2018, 09:50 PM
 
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All the garbage vomited by right-wing fake news media is nothing more than deflection and bizarre conspiracy theories to take away from the criminality of Trump and Trump's campaign. Throw shade and hope it sticks. Townhall and it's ilk are doing everything to protect the most disgraceful and corrupt and compromised president in history.


Don’t let anybody tell you McCabe’s downfall was political. It was the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility that called for his ouster — these are lifers in the bureau, not political appointees — based on information provided by the inspector general of the Justice Department.


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Old 03-19-2018, 09:54 PM
 
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I have attempted to watch FOX News in order to hear their explanation of Trump's scandals. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. The conspiracy theories are laughable. FOX news is seriously misleading people with the bizarre theories they come up with. The only sane news anchor on that station is Shepherd Smith.
Awful short on specifics.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Maybe we should start with : Who is Kevin McCullough at Townhall , why should I believe a word he says?

Townhall isn't trustworthy, I know that much. So there needs to be some really, truly incredible explanation for why I should listen to Kevin McCullough.
Critical thinking is asking an awful lot of some people...
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Old 03-20-2018, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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So let me get this straight: Mueller is continuing to investigate Trump-Russia collusion in the 2016 election, for which there is no evidence so far. But Mueller is not concerned with collusion, misconduct and corruption in the highest levels of the federal government for which there is plenty of evidence.

Okay, I guess that makes a lot of sense, to some people.
Has Mueller interviewed in anyone from the Hilary campaign or the DNC, not that I am aware of. So no, he's just not concerning himself with their collusion with foreigners to influence the election. Not even when that collusion was misused to obtain FISA warrants to spy on and investigate Americans.
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Has Mueller interviewed in anyone from the Hilary campaign or the DNC, not that I am aware of. So no, he's just not concerning himself with their collusion with foreigners to influence the election. Not even when that collusion was misused to obtain FISA warrants to spy on and investigate Americans.
Why don't you gather up all the evidence you have and send it to him? He probably needs a change of pace after reading about Trump's corruption all day every day.
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Old 03-20-2018, 11:23 AM
 
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The point is not whether or not any votes were flipped - it's that Russia did its best to interfere with our election, and that interference is extremely well-documented.
There is not a nation on the planet who is not actively interfering or in some cases wish they could interfere with another country's elections. This is all just part of life in the big bad world and nothing has changed ever in that regard over hundreds of years.

When that reality sinks in, we need to ask in the most plainest terms, what exactly was been done at the time by the Obama administration to enact measures to limit such interference?. Time now to pause on all that transpired and seek real answers and forgo the temptation to embark on mindless Quixotean escapades.
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Old 03-20-2018, 12:15 PM
 
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Yeah, deals were made.
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care to show any proof of that. GOP controls all three facets of the Fed Gov at this time, were Hillary truly guilty of anything she would be locked up at this point as you so love to say. Yet, NADA. Wonder why? Maybe b/c there's nothing there. Instead it's a clever canard to distract the lemmings from the actual goings on?


so, I guess not?
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Old 03-20-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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LOL. No evidence of Trump-Russia collusion? Heh heh, that assertion becomes more comical every day.

Bottom line is this: Trump had questionable real estate and casino deals with Russian elites that goes back decades. The Trump campaign was informed of and knew about Russian hacking and they had stolen "dirt" on Clinton as early as April 2016. Australia and several European countries warned the FBI that Trump is working with Russian spies or may be compromised by them. Roger Stone and Trump's consultant, Cambridge Analytica, was in contact with WikiLeaks. Team Trump negotiated lifting Obama's 2014 Russia sanctions. Flynn bragged on Inauguration Day that lifting the sanctions was a done deal.

Collusion clear as day, and that's only with publicly known information. I'm sure Mueller has more.

The crime was obvious: Trump accepted Russian help during the election in exchange for lifting the sanctions. And that crime is treasonous and highly impeachable.
Collusion is not the word you probably meant to use. Go look at USC and find the code section that has the word "collusion" in it that you think makes any of this conduct criminal. Please just go find it. Then come back here and post it.

Treason is aiding an enemy in a time of war. Russia not an enemy, and we are not at war.

Since you can't use words properly, why should we listen to you?
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Old 03-20-2018, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It is truly amazing that with all the corruption and collusion going on and the biased mass media in the pockets of the Dems Hillary still lost.

It just goes to show what a lousy candidate she was and we can all be forever grateful that enough of our fellow Americans saw through the lies, fake news and propaganda to elect Trump. He might not be the best President for many reasons but Hillary would have been a disaster for the country.
Trump might smirk or scowl for the cameras, and hilary would smile pretty, but Trump's policy decisions and bills he is signing are doing good for the nation, while Hilary's brand of corrupt, cronyism would be pounding nails in our coffin.
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Old 03-20-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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The only limit to Mueller's scope is that any crimes he uncovers or fabricates must be tied to Trump in some way.
This is EXACTLY the scope of Special Counsel Muller's Investigation according to the Letter of Authorization by Deputy AG Rosenstein:



Note that Section 600.4 (a) applies

§ 600.4 Jurisdiction.

Which is as follows:
(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

We don't know what was in that "Special Letter" - Notice that the Jurisdiction & letter does NOT say that "it must be tied to Trump in some way".

I look forward to all of these "investigations" (at least 5-6) being completed and revealed.
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