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What I find hilarious is that the same posters gleefully chortling over this have nothing to say about the gerrymandered map in Maryland, approved also by the Maryland Court of Appeals (the Supreme Court for the state), which the drawers of openly admitted was done to eliminate Republicans from Congress.
It must be ok then.
This thread isn’t about MerryLand...this is about Pennsylvania.
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough
No m ore so then when the dems controlled things for 40 straight YEARS and gerrymandered the hell out of the country in states that they controlled.
Funny, the SAME people attacking the repubs had NO PROBLEM when the dems did it for DECADES and STILL do today.
This ain’t about 40 years ago. This is about today.
Deal with what happened in Pennsylvania and stop crying.
Aren't the judges themselves elected in PA? If so, I can see where they would be as biased as the politicians. Until the maps are drawn up by an independent entity there will be controversy.
What is really obnoxious is when they win due to extreme gerrymandered districts and then start proclaiming that it proves everyone in the country is conservative. Hubris.
"What is really obnoxious is" asserting that the dems have NOT and do NOT do the same thing and have for DECADES and now when a repub state does it, "Oh the horror"
Liberals hate it when conservatives use the process. Liberals think the process is reserved for them only and pack the courts to delay the enforcement of laws on the books.
Another hilarious post. Conservatives will boast how they control most the state houses and governorships, which appoint and confirm the justices to the state appellate and supreme courts, but it is the liberals who pack the courts.
Perhaps he simpler explanation is that conservatives have disdain for the rule of law. They want the law to be interpreted as they see it. That is called dictatorship. But this is what they may really want.
If the legislature does NOT like the existing maps they can CHOOSE to change them or KEEP the original UNTIL NEW maps can be drawn and passed the courts muster.
Courts do NOT DRAW MAPS. It is NOT their job or responsibility.
My point was they seemed to deliberately keep drawing gerrymandered districts they knew the gov was going to veto in hopes of dragging this past any chance at having the 2018 elections under fair maps. The current map is still roughly 10-8 GOP. Note the GOP advantage is simply due to the dispersed nature of the GOP.
FWIW Im against all gerrymandering, yes including IL and MD.
How would you like it if... SCOTUS decides gerrymandering is okay so CA and NY start doing it like PA does.
Better they should put all of that effort into establishing an independent commission to draw maps fairly in the future. But as we know Republicans would never, ever go for that.
States have been trying for years to establish bipartisan oversight committees. Republicans block those at every opportunity, because they understand how effective gerrymandering can be. They know they will lose in a fair election landscape.
Another hilarious post. Conservatives will boast how they control most the state houses and governorships, which appoint and confirm the justices to the state appellate and supreme courts, but it is the liberals who pack the courts.
Perhaps he simpler explanation is that conservatives have disdain for the rule of law. They want the law to be interpreted as they see it. That is called dictatorship. But this is what they may really want.
Accurate statement of the facts as always TreeBeard.
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Hubris.
