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Old 03-21-2018, 01:33 PM
 
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" The value of firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens should be measured in terms of lives saved or crimes prevented, not criminals killed. "
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Several such studies have been done, including studies made during the Clinton and Obama administrations. For some reason, they are getting very little media attention.

A few examples:

https://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_A...g_hysteria.htm
https://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles/165476.txt
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...rime-deterrent

They all show that far more crimes have been prevented by private people having or using a gun, than all the people who have been killed by guns.
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:46 PM
 
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Several such studies have been done, including studies made during the Clinton and Obama administrations. For some reason, they are getting very little media attention.

A few examples:

https://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_A...g_hysteria.htm
https://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles/165476.txt
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...rime-deterrent

They all show that far more crimes have been prevented by private people having or using a gun, than all the people who have been killed by guns.
The left seems to leave all of this out. Been going on for years
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:27 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The left seems to leave all of this out. Been going on for years
Hmm, and for some reason they seem reluctant to join this thread and explain.

Couldn't be because they know they have no leg to stand on, could it?

Naw.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsi.../#7cca97dc5edc

" The value of firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens should be measured in terms of lives saved or crimes prevented, not criminals killed. "

Any honest and open discussion about a topic, any topic, should be able to have more than one point of view expressed. That does not always seem to be the case.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Any honest and open discussion about a topic, any topic, should be able to have more than one point of view expressed. That does not always seem to be the case.
Thus, I suspect some folks are staying away from this thread. I suspect the OP knows full and well that any study of Gun Violence (no quotation marks) would be fought tooth and nail by the NRA and the GOP and probably won't happen for years.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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It's a simple solution, really. Almost too easy.

-Disarm the cops.
-Disarm the entire government.
-Abolish and disarm the military.

Only private citizens should be allowed to own guns.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The left seems to leave all of this out. Been going on for years
Yet the gun lobby has prevented the CDC from studying gun violence, been ongoing for decades.
They don't want a discussion on gun violence, just a few anecdotes to make their case.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:38 PM
 
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It's a simple solution, really. Almost too easy.

-Disarm the cops.
-Disarm the entire government.
-Abolish and disarm the military.

Only private citizens should be allowed to own guns.

If this happens I'm going back to school to study to become a coroner. Or a mortician.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsi.../#7cca97dc5edc

" The value of firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens should be measured in terms of lives saved or crimes prevented, not criminals killed. "


If you eliminate the military from that equation, based on what's in the news, the lives saved will be fairly few.


And I suspect that when lives are saved - it's mostly because the criminals had guns in the first place.
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