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Old 03-20-2018, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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The SJW movement talks about a wage gap but I would argue there's a huge responsibility gap, meaning that women will often get in less trouble or no trouble for things a man would be in serious trouble for. Do you think this is true, and if so should the SJWs be focusing on this as well?

Some examples would include bias towards women in courts during custody hearings, getting MUCH lighter prison sentences for the same crimes, much easier time acquiring welfare, section 8, habitat for humanity, and other social programs, and things of that sort.

Should there be truly equal rights with truly equal consequences to actions?
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Old 03-20-2018, 01:37 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I really don't want to subsidized anyone.

I also don't want the SJWs to do anything but hide in their safe spaces for the rest of their lives.
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:16 AM
 
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Sounds like you're having a personal problem to me. By the way, Habitat for Humanity is not a government (social) program.
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:16 AM
 
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Should there be truly equal rights with truly equal consequences to actions?
yes.
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Old 03-20-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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Jordan Peterson talks about rights vs responsibilities. A lot.

There are an awful lot of people who want zero responsibility and everything handed to them.

And it is a problem for both sexes, albeit a bigger problem for women, who use the victim/strong independent don't mess with me dichotomy to their advantage, supported by laws, affirmative action and the court system.

But they're victims. When it suits them. Otherwise they are strong independent ..... but only when they aren't being victims.
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:06 AM
 
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The SJW movement talks about a wage gap but I would argue there's a huge responsibility gap, meaning that women will often get in less trouble or no trouble for things a man would be in serious trouble for. Do you think this is true, and if so should the SJWs be focusing on this as well?

Some examples would include bias towards women in courts during custody hearings, getting MUCH lighter prison sentences for the same crimes, much easier time acquiring welfare, section 8, habitat for humanity, and other social programs, and things of that sort.

Should there be truly equal rights with truly equal consequences to actions?

Are you assuming this or do you have evidence showing in identical situations. For example where the father has spent equal time as caregiver (taking years off work to care for child, taking off work for doctor appointments, sickness, school closings, taking them to and from school, school activities/sports, active in PTA, boosters, volunteering, etc.) and is actually petitioning the court for custody the father is not given more consideration in custody.
Where men who have custodial custody and the same income are not receiving the same government benefits?
And where women are given lighter sentences for the exact crime with equal attorneys and plea bargains?


Yes things should be equal among genders, cultures, races and classes but one can not control all personal and judicial bias. We can only set laws and try to enforce them and investigate discriminations.
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:06 AM
 
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The SJW movement talks about a wage gap but I would argue there's a huge responsibility gap, meaning that women will often get in less trouble or no trouble for things a man would be in serious trouble for. Do you think this is true, and if so should the SJWs be focusing on this as well?

Some examples would include bias towards women in courts during custody hearings, getting MUCH lighter prison sentences for the same crimes, much easier time acquiring welfare, section 8, habitat for humanity, and other social programs, and things of that sort.

Should there be truly equal rights with truly equal consequences to actions?
The reason more women qualify for welfare, section 8 and other welfare programs is because they have minor children. Kids that should be provided for by BOTH parents but Dad is nowhere in the picture. Care to discuss that lack of responsibility??
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:24 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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The only valid comparison in wages is like to like.
IE what is the median pay of:
A mechanical engineer doing design work with 10 years experience working 45 hours a week: Male vs female.

IIRC from a study that bothererd to do it, pay is all over the board with the ratio female to male between like 88% to 102% depending upon title.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The only valid comparison in wages is like to like.
IE what is the median pay of:
A mechanical engineer doing design work with 10 years experience working 45 hours a week: Male vs female.

IIRC from a study that bothererd to do it, pay is all over the board with the ratio female to male between like 88% to 102% depending upon title.
Compare single men without children to single women without children. There is no wage gap between the sexes.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Compare single men without children to single women without children. There is no wage gap between the sexes.
This study did alot of those things. In some cases women earned more. IIRC a ton were in the 95% range
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