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Old 03-22-2018, 10:38 PM
 
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You have a low opinion of successful people.

The "My Pillow" guy is a multi-millionaire who built his business single-handedly. Many of the tech startups only have a handful of employees, but grow exponentially, and are worth tens of millions of dollars.

Envy of the successful gets you nowhere.
What does the billionaire have of value to offer to the handyman?
The handyman has all the skills and does all the work.

Who do you think would survive after year 1 if left to their own devices.
Pretty obvious it is the handyman.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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I find it funny conservatives are so against taxation... except when it's in their benefit (jobs) at the expense of the whole economy (prices for everyone else). You do realize that the way you get more jobs... is to train and get some marketable skills that businesses need right? You know... whatever the free market wants?
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:40 PM
 
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The people of the Midwest have said no more. They have experienced decades of closing factories.

They banded together and elected Trump president. He HAS to at least try this if he wants to be re-elected. It is very smart. He couldn’t have won without the Midwest and cannot win in 2020 without the Midwest.

Shame on the media for framing this as lose/lose. When free trade happened, some lost and some won. Same now (Michael Moore, one of the only liberals who predicted Trump’s election, gets this. Hillary still doesn’t. There is no proof that the Democrats do either.)
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:41 PM
 
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You have a low opinion of successful people.

The "My Pillow" guy is a multi-millionaire who built his business single-handedly. Many of the tech startups only have a handful of employees, but grow exponentially, and are worth tens of millions of dollars.

Envy of the successful gets you nowhere.
Again, they are nothing without the system, fiat paper and the productivity of others.
The mouth only gets them so far.


It goes without saying, no one ever got rich working for others.
So that also means, many got rich off of others productivity, blood, sweat and tears.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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The people of the Midwest have said no more. They have experienced decades of closing factories.

They banded together and elected Trump president. He HAS to at least try this if he wants to be re-elected. It is very smart. He couldn’t have won without the Midwest and cannot win in 2020 without the Midwest.

Shame on the media for framing this as lose/lose. When free trade happened, some lost and some won. Same now.
People are stupid. The old days aren't coming back. They haven't heard of this thing called technology.

They need to move on and face reality. The days of having a high school education being able to support a family on 1 income are over. Capitalism drives innovation which increase efficiency and reduces cost... by using technology all driven by a profit motive. What people need is to do is specialize in something to make a decent amount of money to live on. Otherwise, the free market will just leave them behind.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:48 PM
 
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About 250 million Chinese Farmers were forced off their lands and told to go make widgets for American Corporations so greedy shareholders and management could make bank..
They were not forced, but willingly left home for big cities to get better pays. Nobody prevents them from staying in village, but that's just not a good choice for young peasants.

US media is extremely hostile to China, so don't trust everything they say. China has human rights issues but it's far from a slavery society. No one is forced to work anywhere.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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They were not forced, but willingly left home for big cities to get better pays. Nobody prevents them from staying in village, but that's just not a good choice for young peasants.

US media is extremely hostile to China, so don't trust everything they say. China has human rights issues but it's far from a slavery society. No one is forced to work anywhere.
Well, technically in a physical sense no, but in a real sense yes. If you don't work, you starve and have no roof over your head. So you're forced to work, or do something to survive.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I find it funny conservatives are so against taxation... except when it's in their benefit (jobs) at the expense of the whole economy (prices for everyone else). You do realize that the way you get more jobs... is to train and get some marketable skills that businesses need right? You know... whatever the free market wants?
If you're referencing me, I'm not a conservative. I'm an anarcho-capitalist.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Again, they are nothing without the system, fiat paper and the productivity of others.
The mouth only gets them so far.


It goes without saying, no one ever got rich working for others.
So that also means, many got rich off of others productivity, blood, sweat and tears.
Such is the beauty of capitalism. Some win, some lose.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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If you're referencing me, I'm not a conservative. I'm an anarcho-capitalist.
Wasn't referencing anyone. Was just pointing out the hypocrisy.
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