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Old 03-24-2018, 10:37 AM
 
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YAY, bring back the hordes of streetwalkers that totally blight neighborhoods, that is a great thing.

There is a demand for prostitution....crackdown on one outlet and you will have another outlet
popping-up to take its place.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Closing down the personal sections on Craigslist won't stop sex trafficking .... it's a problem that's much more complicated than that.

And this is why Republicans are the biggest hypocrites .... this is big government, not small government
If that's the biggest issue you have with the GOP, I'll take it. Moving on, the GOP doesn't claim (and never has) to be universally pro-small government, so your argument seems misplaced in any event. And while the GOP remains far too big government for it, it still (by far) more pro-small government than the alternative.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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YAY, bring back the hordes of streetwalkers that totally blight neighborhoods, that is a great thing.

There is a demand for prostitution....crackdown on one outlet and you will have another outlet
popping-up to take its place.
I honestly believe that this will be one of the unintended consequences. I'd imagine that the ease of sex being available in the personals section of sites like Craigslist helped keep such scum off the streets in higher numbers than they'd otherwise be.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:45 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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It stops these popular websites from being a party to it and spreading it. They have done plenty to spread it to people who would not have accessed it otherwise.

Why would any legit website want to enable sex trafficking?
More thought process from someone who refuses to understand.

You absolutely take away people's 1st amendment rights and in trade it for a long shot that it will stop it...correction almost zero chance since we already went down this path.
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:47 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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I honestly believe that this will be one of the unintended consequences. I'd imagine that the ease of sex being available in the personals section of sites like Craigslist helped keep such scum off the streets in higher numbers than they'd otherwise be.
exactly.

Whether one agrees or disagrees with legalization of prostitution in general is irrelevant. Street prostitution did reduce its presence once personal sections on websites were easily accessible. Street is where most of the major issues associated with prostitution occurs to begin with....
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Old 03-24-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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There are still telephone chat lines.
Phone is not my thing joan.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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exactly.

Whether one agrees or disagrees with legalization of prostitution in general is irrelevant. Street prostitution did reduce its presence once personal sections on websites were easily accessible. Street is where most of the major issues associated with prostitution occurs to begin with....
Yea like stings and arrests and pictures of twenty five busted johns on the local news website. Sounds good to me.

Prostitution is ILLEGAL and that is highly RELEVANT. Sneaking it out of sight only encourages it and plenty of hos and customers are too shy or scared to get out on the street. They run their own comfy little ILLEGAL biz online, where they pretend it is just another line of work. Only the most desperate druggies hit the streets and some of these online hookers look pretty healthy, they can find legitimate ways to earn money once their easy access to their customers is removed.

Authorities have been trying to work with Craigslist for years on this issue. If they and other websites allowing ads for illegal activities would cooperate with law enforcement we wouldn't need a law.
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:38 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Yea like stings and arrests and pictures of twenty five busted johns on the local news website. Sounds good to me.

Prostitution is ILLEGAL and that is highly RELEVANT. Sneaking it out of sight only encourages it and plenty of hos and customers are too shy or scared to get out on the street. They run their own comfy little ILLEGAL biz online, where they pretend it is just another line of work. Only the most desperate druggies hit the streets and some of these online hookers look pretty healthy, they can find legitimate ways to earn money once their easy access to their customers is removed.

Authorities have been trying to work with Craigslist for years on this issue. If they and other websites allowing ads for illegal activities would cooperate with law enforcement we wouldn't need a law.
Again... you don't seem to have a firm understanding of the complexities involved here. Your view of prostitution is not universal and somewhat skewed. There are many types that work prostitution.. not all are desperate druggies (that includes street walkers or former online advertisers). I have one friend (escort) that makes 6 figure income working 3 days a week. She may be the exception but FOSTA does impact her as well. If you met her you would have never known... she has working experience in marketing too. We know (prohibition for example) that you don't remove people's choices (assuming they don't hurt anyone else) in order to protect people from themselves.

All of this is actually irrelevant IMO. Regardless of your stance on prostitution. The key here is that it doesn't mean that third parties should be held accountable for illegal actions of others nor infringe on freedom of speech.
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Old 03-24-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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Actually for sex workers all this does is restore power to pimps.
If sex workers can reach clients directly they eliminate that dangerous and exploitative middle-man.
This is a step backwards towards pimps hustling girls out on the street. What are the do-gooders gonna do in response? Ban street corners and roll up the sidewalks?

And this whole thing is disgustingly hypocritical. If you really wanted to reduce sex trafficking you'd ban marriage, which is the blatant commercial exchange of sex and companionship for economic profit and security, enforced by the State.
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Old 03-24-2018, 12:39 PM
 
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Yes used the site for legit business like buying a table. I have seen the other sections and thought it was sketchy. Remember the Craigslist Killer in Boston - massage in a hotel- sounds legit alright....
Ted Kaczynski used the U.S. mail. There are people that will abuse anything. That is NOT reason enough for the government to threaten prosecution.

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Not sure why CL has not been deleting illegal or questionable personal ads all along or even needed a personals section, it is a great site otherwise no need to get into that other side. They needed a law to do something, too bad they didn't keep on top of it.
As already noted and ignored, CL has always deleted ads that they were made aware of that promoted something illegal. Why they included personals is really none of yours or the governments concern.
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