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Old 03-23-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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As long as both sides are siloed into their own alternative realities, we can’t even have a decent conversation, let alone reach across the aisle and actually govern.
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Old 03-23-2018, 05:34 PM
 
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YEAH, no coming-together on even the most important issues, no way forward for the USA.
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Old 03-23-2018, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Regarding politics, and especially the presidency...... politics have become a war more so than ever before. Will the all presidents from here on be subjected to ongoing investigations, media blitz, etc. This question in no way is a statement about our current president, it just seems that from here on out either side will just engage in a constant attack to undermine and hinder whatever administration is in power. It is an effective tactic. Also..... will this keep good people from seeking office due to " the hell with that, it's not worth it"?
Seriously? Where have you been for the last 20-30 years?

They’ve been investigating Hillary Clinton since 1993!

Trump has been a sleaze bag for DECADES!
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Old 03-23-2018, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Just get rid of the freaking government and let people live their lives freely and peacefully. It's not that hard.

Jesus.
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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Just get rid of the freaking government and let people live their lives freely and peacefully. It's not that hard. Jesus.
Excellent idea. We should talk about the details of how to make that happen. Perhaps we could start with public schools. A child born into a family that can't afford a private school doesn't deserve an education anyways. And we can gladly forget the Federal Treasury, etc., and go back to the days when individual banks issued their own money. That would certainly make America great again. Anyone who can't afford medical care should just suffer and die if they can't get a hand-out. Prisoners should all just be killed or set free, unless some generous private donors want to keep the prison system going. We can gladly get rid of the military. We'll save a lot of money by not paying for military pensions any more. Wounded veterans can just die if they can't work or get sufficient handouts. And Law Enforcement is just a pain in the butt so no one will be sad to see that go. And emergency services? That stuff should just be for rich people anyway. The whole judiciary system is pointless, so good riddance to all that. Might and/or money makes right is all that anyone needs to know about justice. The highway system has always been bunk; all roads should be toll roads. And if the toll booth operator doesn't accept the money issued from my particular bank I can just stab him in the neck because if he is too slow to dodge, he deserves to die anyways because my might makes me right. Yes, indeed, life without government would be free and peaceful. Unicorns could dance and play amidst endless forests of smokestacks and happy children could frolic through mountains of uncollected trash from sea to dying sea.

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Old 03-23-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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One ray of hope is the large number of ordinary citizens who are making first-time runs for office at present, at local, state, and soon-to-be national levels. Most of these people seem to be moderate Democrats, but I expect we'll see some moderate Republicans appear as well.

Getting government back into the hands of ordinary, patriotic citizens who put country above party - and above self-interest - is key to retaining our democratic system of representative government, if it's to be both truly democratic and truly representative.
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:28 PM
 
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One ray of hope is the large number of ordinary citizens who are making first-time runs for office at present, at local, state, and soon-to-be national levels. Most of these people seem to be moderate Democrats, but I expect we'll see some moderate Republicans appear as well.

Getting government back into the hands of ordinary, patriotic citizens who put country above party - and above self-interest - is key to retaining our democratic system of representative government, if it's to be both truly democratic and truly representative.
Very good.post. I agree
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:32 PM
 
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Do you think that Trump is a "good" person who seek the office to improve the lives of the American people?

yes
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:37 PM
 
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do you think there is one person, on the left, thats calling all the shots to attack, telling all the media what to attack
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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Regarding politics, and especially the presidency...... politics have become a war more so than ever before. Will the all presidents from here on be subjected to ongoing investigations, media blitz, etc. This question in no way is a statement about our current president, it just seems that from here on out either side will just engage in a constant attack to undermine and hinder whatever administration is in power. It is an effective tactic. Also..... will this keep good people from seeking office due to " the hell with that, it's not worth it"?
Yeah, I don’t know how we fix it.

But looking back, our nation has been through this before, and bounced back.

I don’t foresee things getting better any time soon though. This slump could last 30-40 years.
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