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Old 03-24-2018, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Old 03-24-2018, 12:44 PM
 
Location: in a pond with the other human scum
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We are at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
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Old 03-24-2018, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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So we are stronger when we are weaker.
Strength through weakness has already been tried. It failed
-There is no "we." This is not a Soviet collective.

-Taxation is theft. I never consented to having money stolen from me and used to fund a worldwide ilitary empire. It is not my responsibility to manage the internal affairs of other countries; they don't pay my bills. It is not my duty as a theft victim to fund regime change and interventions in other countries.

-This country is $21 trillion in debt and can no longer afford to be the world's hall monitor.
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Old 03-24-2018, 12:50 PM
 
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Today's Republicans would have hounded Eisenhower right out of their party as an unelectable socio-commie RINO.
Look at what the Israel lobby and the RNC did to Ron in 2012 when they realized he was a real threat:


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Old 03-24-2018, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Today's Republicans would have hounded Eisenhower right out of their party as an unelectable socio-commie RINO.

Absolutely.

Ike was a sensible moderate with great insight and leadership qualities. In addition, he was a highly decorated combat vet. He came up the hard way from a hardscrabble life on a Kansas farm.

All of those would have immediately disqualified him from ever running as a Pub in today's GOP.

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Old 03-24-2018, 01:07 PM
 
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Today's Republicans would have hounded Eisenhower right out of their party as an unelectable socio-commie RINO.
Today Dems would call JFK Alt Right
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Old 03-24-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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The west is ruled by reptiles. Make no mistake of it.
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Old 03-24-2018, 01:20 PM
 
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Today Dems would call JFK Alt Right
Well, you made an effort.
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Old 03-24-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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So we are stronger when we are weaker.
Strength through weakness has already been tried. It failed
Strength through weakness? WTF are you talking about??

American imperialism needs to stop. We can't afford to police the world and deal with everybody else's problems while ignoring our own. It's not the job of one country to "build nations" around the world, it's that countries job to do it themselves, nor are other countries problems our problems, they are a different country, let them figure it out themselves.

George Washington warned us in his farewell address about "entangling alliances", "It is our true police to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world." And I would add to it that "The enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend", as that mentality leads to the "entangling alliances" that Washington spoke of. Thomas Jefferson also echoed similar thoughts in his inaugural address: "Peace commerce and honest friendship will all nations - entangling alliances with none."

IMO, if we really want to be "strong" we need to pull out off all these combat altercations going on across the world, stop fighting other countries battles for them and strengthen our lands and territories instead of fighting abroad. We waste literally trillions of dollars fighting for countries that wouldn't do the same for us if the tables are turned. It's not our job to "spread democracy", it's our job to mind our own business and not meddle in other countries affairs unless we are directly attacked on US lands or territories.

Truthfully, it's not about "protecting the people" or "liberating" those countries, we want control of their resources, that's what it's all about. They couldn't give a crap less about the people in those countries, so don't buy into that BS for one second.


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Old 03-24-2018, 03:17 PM
 
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Strength through weakness? WTF are you talking about??

American imperialism needs to stop. We can't afford to police the world and deal with everybody else's problems while ignoring our own. It's not the job of one country to "build nations" around the world, it's that countries job to do it themselves, nor are other countries problems our problems, they are a different country, let them figure it out themselves.

George Washington warned us in his farewell address about "entangling alliances", "It is our true police to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world." And I would add to it that "The enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend", as that mentality leads to the "entangling alliances" that Washington spoke of. Thomas Jefferson also echoed similar thoughts in his inaugural address: "Peace commerce and honest friendship will all nations - entangling alliances with none."

IMO, if we really want to be "strong" we need to pull out off all these combat altercations going on across the world, stop fighting other countries battles for them and strengthen our lands and territories instead of fighting abroad. We waste literally trillions of dollars fighting for countries that wouldn't do the same for us if the tables are turned. It's not our job to "spread democracy", it's our job to mind our own business and not meddle in other countries affairs unless we are directly attacked on US lands or territories.

Truthfully, it's not about "protecting the people" or "liberating" those countries, we want control of their resources, that's what it's all about. They couldn't give a crap less about the people in those countries, so don't buy into that BS for one second.


That's not our policy and hasn't been for a 100 years.
That's crazy talk when we are providing the world security. We need to bomb people for their resources. Its the only way to do it that works. Then we build walls around the resources we want to protect. That's why there was wall funding for four different ME countries. We have things worth protecting over there. We have had 100 years of practice and ended two world wars. John Bolton is an expert on how our policy is done. We are in good hands now.

What was that song.

Over there, over there



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