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Why doesn't Trump present a clean -- DACA only bill if it is so important to him?
If your car needs brakes, tires, and a battery fixing one thing won't help the other problems and you will still break down eventually.
Same with DACA. It isn't just about the Dreamers -- it's about immigration reform and everything connected to it like building the wall, chain migration and the visa lottery.
Give the Dreamers a pass and fix nothing else and the illegal immigration problem doesn't go away. It only gets worse. We cannot continue to support every migrant that comes here illegally. We don't have enough money as it is.
The U.S. spends $135 billion a year on illegal immigrants. Stop the flow over the border and it covers a lot of wall construction.
DACA needs to end and the entire family here deported either voluntarily or involuntarily. The American worker should not have to compete with 800,000 DACAs for jobs and resources. Their parents have already taken jobs and resources from Americans. Build the wall to deter more from getting into our country illegally. Mandate e-verify across the board and interpret the birthright citizenship clause as it was meant to be. Time to stop all of this nonsense once and for all. It is long overdue. We are either a nation of laws or we're not. We either care about our own citizens and put them first or not. Rewarding those here illegally no matter how they got here is no solution to our illegal immigration problem.
The DACA kids remain protected for at least a year.
The Dems know when to deal and when to hold off. Unlike the Arse of the Deal in the WH.
Yep. Mr Great Negotiator Trump tied DACA to "The Wall". But DACA is delayed for at least a year. No need for discussions on DACA while it sits in the courts.
But as was pointed out, Trump is making a big story of how he wanted to help DACA -- so you are telling me he is just making stuff up -- trying to fool people --
Yes, he's making stuff up and trying to fool people. He doesn't want or care about DACA. He's only using it as a negotiation tactic to get money for The Wall. But he failed to take into account that DACA has been put on the back burner due to the ongoing court case.
DACA needs to end and the entire family here deported either voluntarily or involuntarily. The American worker should not have to compete with 800,000 DACAs for jobs and resources. Their parents have already taken jobs and resources from Americans. Build the wall to deter more from getting into our country illegally. Mandate e-verify across the board and interpret the birthright citizenship clause as it was meant to be. Time to stop all of this nonsense once and for all. It is long overdue. We are either a nation of laws or we're not. We either care about our own citizens and put them first or not. Rewarding those here illegally no matter how they got here is no solution to our illegal immigration problem.
Poor OG, I see lots and lots of disappointment in your future...
DACA needs to end and the entire family here deported either voluntarily or involuntarily. The American worker should not have to compete with 800,000 DACAs for jobs and resources. Their parents have already taken jobs and resources from Americans. Build the wall to deter more from getting into our country illegally. Mandate e-verify across the board and interpret the birthright citizenship clause as it was meant to be. Time to stop all of this nonsense once and for all. It is long overdue. We are either a nation of laws or we're not. We either care about our own citizens and put them first or not. Rewarding those here illegally no matter how they got here is no solution to our illegal immigration problem.
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Yeah, this tripe is being peddled across every right wing site on the Internet. It's fantasy, but I guess you guys need something to hang onto after Trump threw you under the omnibus.
"Every right wing site", you are saying that you go to every right wing site? suuure.
People acting like no president has ever controlled those funds.
Suppose Trump does use some of those funds for the wall, using them under National Security, what happens to daca then? The dems would lose leverage, what would they then use to bargain with?
The dems cared more about the money, daca's need to start packing
"Every right wing site", you are saying that you go to every right wing site? suuure.
I go to a number of them pretty regularly, and I've seen this at all of them. It's usually a copy and paste thing, so it's making the rounds.
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Suppose Trump does use some of those funds for the wall, using them under National Security,
Yeah, we'll just ignore the fact that the bill expressly states the money cannot be used to build a wall. And Trump signed it, so he agreed to that.
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what happens to daca then? The dems would lose leverage, what would they then use to bargain with?
The dems cared more about the money, daca's need to start packing
The DACAs are safe until next year and they know it. And a lot can change by next year.
If your car needs brakes, tires, and a battery fixing one thing won't help the other problems and you will still break down eventually.
Same with DACA. It isn't just about the Dreamers -- it's about immigration reform and everything connected to it like building the wall, chain migration and the visa lottery.
Give the Dreamers a pass and fix nothing else and the illegal immigration problem doesn't go away. It only gets worse. We cannot continue to support every migrant that comes here illegally. We don't have enough money as it is.
The U.S. spends $135 billion a year on illegal immigrants. Stop the flow over the border and it covers a lot of wall construction.
Yes illegal immigration has many aspects. and DACA is one of them. It isn't meant to solve all illegal immigration issues (as cited previously the biggest problem with illegals results from folks overstaying their visas -- that needs to be fixed).
It doesn't have to be a whopping bill to address all immigration problems. There is no law that says it has to be all encompassing.
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I go to a number of them pretty regularly, and I've seen this at all of them. It's usually a copy and paste thing, so it's making the rounds.
Well, you did say "every", as in all of them. As for it making it's rounds, I'll have to take your word on that.
Yeah, we'll just ignore the fact that the bill expressly states the money cannot be used to build a wall. And Trump signed it, so he agreed to that.
Which carries more weight, a presidents signature on the Omnibus bill, or, State of Emergency, National Security?
The DACAs are safe until next year and they know it. And a lot can change by next year.
Yes they are safe, until next year. Another year of a half-life, another year of fear, dread and panic for them over their future. Trump offered a path, they finally had a glimmer of hope but the Left's greed squashed that.
What needs to change is the Left. They've been stringing daca along for about 9 years. The Left promises the sky but never delivers. I do feel bad that they cannot really plan for a future because the Left treats them as pawns instead of people. The daca's need to have a full life either here or in their own country, not this half-life the Left has had them stranded in.
It's been around 9 years dems, s... or get off the pot.
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