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Those 11,000 were just murder victims. If you include suicides and accidents in the mix it puts our firearm related deaths over the 33,000 a year mark.
Solve the inner city black, on black violence, and that number goes WAY down. Address that instead of disarming the law abiding. Also, I don't care what year bombs were used. They are capable of mass destruction, and are already illegal yet people use them.
I guess your forget the people killed just days ago in Austin, TX, by a person using BOMBS. So your claims are not only misguided, but FALSE.
Solve the inner city black, on black violence, and that number goes WAY down. Address that instead of disarming the law abiding. Also, I don't care what year bombs were used. They are capable of mass destruction, and are already illegal yet people use them.
And how do you suppose we solve the inner city black on black violence problem?
People have used bombs yes, but look at how infrequently they are used. There has been spans of years were not one person was killed by a bomb. We average 30 gun homicides a day! Imagine if we had a bombing everyday that killed 30 people and this went on for decade after decade after decade.
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I guess your forget the people killed just days ago in Austin, TX, by a person using BOMBS. So your claims are not only misguided, but FALSE.
The Austin bomber killed 2 people and injured 4 over a weeks span. In that same period of time 200 people were shot to death somewhere in this country with and additional 1400 injured. I strongly believe we should do something to ensure bombings do not happen. But compared to gun violence its a much smaller problem.
A gun is the most lethal weapon the general public can procure to inflict destruction and death to people, up close or from a distance. It should surprise NO ONE that there is honest fear to many people, and point at the gun as the problem.
Take the recent slew of school shootings, or the Las Vegas incident. Who's going to stop someone from a window high up at a distance? WHo will dare challenge a person with a gun in his hand, unless you yourself have a gun (the reason for those against more gun control). Damage can be inflicted much quicker with a gun than with a knife, a crossbow, or any other weapon. Sure it's not the gun that's the problem, but yet it is for the relative ease at which one can carry out their horror.
Terrorism, which these shootings are (no difference whether it's international or domestic), is a problem. Not going to stop what happened on 9/11, or the Boston Marathon, unless whatever the government has for anti-terrorism can stop a potential threat. But a gun in any form, assault or handgun, is what many advocating for change want to abolish.
I do not agree with abolishment. Nor to like the NRA or that hanging on to one's rights as a reason not to change. The future is cloudy. It's evident with these kids and their marches/voices. Their message is muddy, but for now it keeps the fire hot for someone at some level to do something. Is it Washington's responsibility to save us all? What about a balance of federal, state, and local government?
Not that anything will stop it all. Guns will never disappear from this earth, nor will fear. Maybe every school should be set up like a prison with those levels of protection. Maybe all business should operate like some jewelry stores in cities do, with bars, and only allowed to be buzzed into the store from the inside. How about airport security level stuff in every doorway?
Who knows where this is all heading. But I do feel there is a growing epidemic of hatred and terrorism, and the gun is the easiest way to do the deed of the evil.
I notice that you, and plenty of other people blame the NRA for the ills of firearm violence. but you and others do not want to blame islam for the islamic terrorist.
after all, it would equate the same type of blame game. if the NRA is to blame for firearm violence, then it just stands to reason that islam is to blame for islamic terrorism.
otherwise you are just saying that you are being hypocritical.
Those 11,000 were just murder victims. If you include suicides and accidents in the mix it puts our firearm related deaths over the 33,000 a year mark.
330 million people is a lot of people that live here. Try graphing 11 grand vs 330 million. If you put in any other causes of death besides "natural" it's still not going to be noticeable.
330 million people is a lot of people that live here. Try graphing 11 grand vs 330 million. If you put in any other causes of death besides "natural" it's still not going to be noticeable.
11,000 of 330,000,000 represents .00003%. That 11,000 could be cut by at least 2/3 to 3/4 if inner city gang violence was curtailed. Whereas motor vehicle deaths accounted for 40,100 in 2017, and they are trending up, probably due to texting, and driving.
11,000 of 330,000,000 represents .00003%. That 11,000 could be cut by at least 2/3 to 3/4 if inner city gang violence was curtailed. Whereas motor vehicle deaths accounted for 40,100 in 2017, and they are trending up, probably due to texting, and driving.
There are approximately 16 million high school students in the US each year.
If you take the body count of all kids slain in school shootings in the last 25 years, it is 10 kids per year.
Every day, 11 teenagers die because of texting while driving.
The reason 10 per year is so much more horrifying than 11 per day is because teenagers dying 11 per day in distracted driving accidents is part of the plan, and 10 per year dying in a shooting is not part of the plan. Amazing how perception gets skewed by what we culturally accept as "the plan" and how it affects our thinking.
You'd think that more people killed in one day by Thing A than are killed each year by Thing B would make people react more seriously to Thing A, but expected vs unexpected dictates a great deal about how hysterical people get.
We've come to expect the totally needless death toll of texting while driving, and yeah, we have advocacy, pamphlets and slogans aplenty, but nobody ever says ban cars and/or cell phones, or raise the driving age to 21. We expect those deaths as part of doing the business of daily life in the US. And most people are cool with those deaths because they aren't teenagers, they don't have teenage children, and/or it's not really trumpeted by the media. Same as the vast number of gun related homicide being inner city "warfare" for lack of a better word. Business as usual, nothing real newsworthy, price of business in the inner city.
Massive death tolls that kill daily get ignored because they are expected and worse, accepted. But have a random one/twice a year event involving far fewer total bodies and let the media latch onto it, now it is "unprecedented" and we must all manifest some level of hysteria. The same thing happened after 9-11. We flipped society upside down for an event that is far less likely than being hit by a bolt of lightning...twice. Why? Because we know teenagers texting while driving is dangerous, but we aren't in the car with them.
We know inner city thugs are killing each other in the inner city, but I don't live there, so whatever. But al Qaeda made me scared of airplanes and tall buildings and Nikolas Cruz made me scared of school!! So we freak out over the small and unexpected event because it could - by some stroke of extraordinary bad luck on par with winning the lottery three times - happen to me, and just languidly shrug off the daily bad news and massive body counts because none of that can happen, not to me anyway.
1.3 million people in the U.S. are killed in car accidents every year. Around 13000 are killed by guns. That means cars kill over a million more people than guns each year yet you never see any marches or advocacy for banning cars.
330 million people is a lot of people that live here. Try graphing 11 grand vs 330 million. If you put in any other causes of death besides "natural" it's still not going to be noticeable.
Well far fewer then 11,000 people have died from Islamic terrorism. Yet we have speak billions of dollar on defense and law enforcement to stop it. If your rational is to be used then it was money wasted. The question is how many people would have to die from something before its worth acting on? 100,000? a million?
1.3 million people in the U.S. are killed in car accidents every year. Around 13000 are killed by guns. That means cars kill over a million more people than guns each year yet you never see any marches or advocacy for banning cars.
Not sure where you got those numbers but its way off base. Car accidents accounted for roughly 32,000 deaths last year in the United States. It looks like your numbers are for all car accidents across the globe.
Unlike guns, we have made great strides to make roads a safer place. Legally and technologically.
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