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Old 04-03-2018, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Originally Posted by Maccabee 2A View Post
That didn't stopped the 16 year old in Maryland.



Because that worked so well in the Parkland shooting.



Already exist in most states. However there is no evidence that such a law has any effect on crime.


Again, the law is already in placed.

Gun Laws are as affective as anti-Terrorist Laws are to ISIL. If people disregard a Law that says you can not Murder another person, they are going to not even think of any gun laws. To expect them to do that shows you need to see a Doctor for Mental Disorders.
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:23 PM
 
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People seem happy in Australia and Canada.
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Old 04-04-2018, 06:27 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The one that's going to be hard is the mental illness. We have soldiers coming back from war that have the PSTD, and that is a form of mental illness, but with treatment and rehab, they can over come it and be contributing citizens to society. But, will their temporary break down be used against them in the future to attain a gun? What about the girl that was violently beaten and raped? That is some serious trauma she will have to overcome, and may need mental treatment, but would that also be used against her if she decided she was not going to be a victim again and wants to get a concealed carry permit?

And what about the prison time. I think once you done your time, you should be free of debts to society and be allowed to start with a clean slate. Do we really want to restrict gun access because someone might have done something foolish or stupid and one time in their life? I can understand repeat offenders, but not for someone who made a mistake.
Makes the case for you to be able to protect yourself from all forms of evil. It is not anyone's job but yours. Don't blame my gun, because you are unarmed in the evil world.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Enforcing existing gun laws would be a good start.

For starters no gun should be bought without a background check. Most of the guns in my immediate family never had a background check to get.


And has anyone in your immediate family ever used one of those guns for nefarious purposes?

No?

Well guess what?

Neither have hundreds of millions of others who have owned guns since long before there was such a thing as background checks.

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Old 04-04-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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The average civilian with a concealed weapons permit has more training and practices more often than the average police officer. Civilians with CWP also commit fewer crimes than the police. And you think armed police in "gun free zones" are Ok, but not better trained more law abiding civilians? Brilliant.
I could make up facts too. But I won't. In my state, for example, a private citizen needs to take one 8-hour course to get a CWP. For whatever it is worth, the first hit on google is that police get 110 hours of firearm training in academy.

So, try again. Considering you want to claim that the average citizen pays $100 or so for 8 hours and then under their own volition, drop another $1200 or so on more training just to equal what trained professionals have?


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You really have no idea how much firearm training these "trained professionals with a gun" have, do you.
Yes, you really have no idea.

And even if your statement WAS true? You shouldn't be clamoring against gun restrictions. Take your efforts and clamor for better training for law enforcement officers. There's a much bigger problem then.
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Old 04-04-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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People seem happy in Australia and Canada.
lol - And neither one of them has Mexico for a neighbor. Mexican drug lords would love to be able to supply guns to the U.S. along with all the dope.

Jeebus, grow up.
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Old 04-04-2018, 12:23 PM
 
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OK Fans

Since it always seems to fall on someone like myself to come up with a win win answer for everyone, here are the gun laws I propose.

1 No one under 21 can purchase a handgun or semi automatic assault rifle. 18 year olds can purchase shotguns, hunting rifles and small caliber non repeating rifles.

2 No guns shall be brought onto school or hospital property.

3 Anyone carrying a concealed or open handgun, who is not a licensed law enforcement representative or active duty military personnel requiring the possession of said handgun, must be in possession of a legal permit issued by his or her home state to possess the said gun.

4 No handguns will be sold to a person who has a history of mental illness or imprisonment.



There ya go folks. That should about solve it.

Know get back to work. Both of you.

Those laws already exist in Massachusetts
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