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Old 04-01-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Depends on the round. If it's simple FMJ - yes. If it's HP - less.
Cops carry JHP, (jacketed hollow points), and yet perps are often still a threat after several rounds. But, you are correct, they are better man stoppers than FMJ.
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Old 04-01-2018, 12:15 PM
 
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Ever watch A Christmas Story where Ralphie's brother lays possum on the ground with the voiceover "It was his only defense".

Here is some advice for you Lefty souls, if you're only defense is momentary compassion from a born psycho, maybe familiarize yourself with Darwinism.
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Old 04-01-2018, 01:20 PM
 
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Yes. She was lucky that they ran away.
Yes, this is part of the story that many overlook. If the invaders didn't flee and instead fought back, she and her husband would have likely been killed. In that instance, an AR-15 would have been very useful.
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Old 04-01-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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Why do you keep harping on this "need" argument? Yes, she did. It provides better accuracy, and can hold more cartridges typically depending on magazine used. What if she misses? Isn't I better to have a few extra rounds in case of misses, AND multiple attackers? Also criminals, often hopped up on drugs can take multiple pistol rounds, and still kill you. They've even taken multiple rifle rounds and can still kill you. I am not talking two, or three. I am talking ten our more.
A retired cop that I know, said they hit a guy 19 times and finally tackled him. He was high on PCP. He lived. That is when they changed from 9mm to .40.
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Old 04-01-2018, 01:34 PM
 
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You could post 200 accidental shootings for every one of these.
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Old 04-01-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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That's because you're only counting defensive gun uses where the criminal died. According to the CDC, there are at least 500 million cases every year of people defending themselves with firearms.

Horse pucky! Were that the case you'd be a country where every citizen defended himself at least once a year 1 and 1/2 times.

Who would live in such a place?????? Sensible people would move out and leave it to the anarchy already arrived at.

I could see your mistake were you to merely misplace a decimal point or a comma but you actually specified "million" in it's written word form.

This is the actual quote from the study: “Defensive uses of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed. Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

One half of one million to a max of 3 million ........a far cry from "500 million", eh?
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Old 04-01-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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It's time to ban brooms.

Clearly you guys think these “Well, let’s ban such and such” statements are witty. Allow me to be the one to tell you...

They are not witty. In fact, those statements give the illusion of a person with simple-minded thinking—sometimes erroneously. Sometimes not.

Admittedly, I will never understand why you guys think that is some display of brilliance.
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Old 04-01-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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A retired cop that I know, said they hit a guy 19 times and finally tackled him. He was high on PCP. He lived. That is when they changed from 9mm to .40.
Maybe they should switch to Dart Guns...
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Old 04-01-2018, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Maybe they should switch to Dart Guns...
Or Zulu blow guns.
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Old 04-01-2018, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Clearly you guys think these “Well, let’s ban such and such” statements are witty. Allow me to be the one to tell you...

They are not witty. In fact, those statements give the illusion of a person with simple-minded thinking—sometimes erroneously. Sometimes not.

Admittedly, I will never understand why you guys think that is some display of brilliance.
Well we know why you don't want brooms banned. How would you fly?


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