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Old 03-28-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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the 2nd amendment is very specific...the RIGHT of the PEOPLE shall not be INFRINGED


interesting how the liberals, fascists, nazis, communists are the ones who want gun control....hmm
Yes, it's a very distinct pattern.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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the 2nd amendment is very specific...the RIGHT of the PEOPLE shall not be INFRINGED




interesting how the liberals, fascists, nazi's, communists are the ones who want gun control....hmm
The courts already determined that guns can be restricted, the world has changed.


You almost made it through a post without stating fascist and communists.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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Stevens was a conservative appointment, but as the court pulled further to the right, he became more aligned with the liberals. Without any doubt, his position on the 2nd Amendment is as far from conservative as it could be. That said, the people who are belittling him, because of his age or his politics, should bear in mind his dissent on Citizens United. A relatively recent decision that shows his legal acumen was not impaired by age or anything else, and I believe his dissent will in the end carry the day, because the Citizens United decision was deeply flawed.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:52 AM
 
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So where do we draw the line here on who can possess what weapons?

Automatic weapons? Rocket launchers? Anti-tank guided missiles?

Surely, somewhere on the route to nuclear weapons a civilized society needs to draw the line between civilian weapons and military weapons.

Where should the line be drawn?

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Old 03-28-2018, 09:16 AM
 
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So where do we draw the line here on who can possess what weapons?

Automatic weapons? Rocket launchers? Anti-tank guided missiles?

Surely, somewhere on the route to nuclear weapons a civilized society needs to draw the line between civilian weapons and military weapons.

Where should the line be drawn?
Unfortunately this is really the only way to prevent tyranny. Do you think if the general public had tanks, rocket launchers, nukes, etc, and were wiling to use them against the govt, that govt would be enacting and creating tyrannical laws/ regulations/ HECK NO!!

And since the courts have decided to infringe...what do you know, they are creating and enacting tyrannical laws! LOL Of course thats going to happen.

Govt needs to fear the people to some degree.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Can you provide the source for that "Thomas Jefferson Quote?"
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:19 AM
 
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The vote is what we have to prevent tyranny.

If the general public had tanks, rocket launchers, nukes, ... living here would be a nightmare. Ask the folks in Somalia how that works out.

Think of all the nut cases you know.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Who says that the liberals don't want to take away guns? Now we have a retired Supreme Court Justice calling for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment, calling it "a relic of the 18th Century".

Retired Supreme Court Justice Stevens says Second Amendment should be repealed | Fox News

Which freedom will be next in jeopardy?
They are screaming he was appointed by a conservative. My response to that is - this just proves most "conservatives" in DC aren't ANYTHING "conservative" - there are very few true conservatives in DC (or anywhere in America today) anymore.


Moreover, I want liberals to answer me this: If Trump is a puppet of a foreign government, or is as bad an tyranical as Hitler, like many of you say (and you said this same sort of stuff about Bush, McCain and Romney, let's not forget) WHY IN THE WORLD SHOULD WE GIVE THEM OUR GUNS???
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Stevens was a conservative appointment, but as the court pulled further to the right, he became more aligned with the liberals. Without any doubt, his position on the 2nd Amendment is as far from conservative as it could be. That said, the people who are belittling him, because of his age or his politics, should bear in mind his dissent on Citizens United. A relatively recent decision that shows his legal acumen was not impaired by age or anything else, and I believe his dissent will in the end carry the day, because the Citizens United decision was deeply flawed.
Only in the sense of convention used by political talking heads.

Gun proliferation fueled by a tangential interpretation of the 2nd amendment has become a public safety threat to each and every man, woman, and child. Only the most narrow and closed minds refuse to acknowledge this and only those would stand in the way of doing something about it.

This is an issue where partisan division is senseless. There is nothing more important to real conservatives than safe streets, movie theaters, shopping malls, and - most of all - safe schools for their children.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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The courts already determined that guns can be restricted, the world has changed.
True, but there are LIMITS on the restrictions, like not banning weapons in COMMON USE. The AR-15 is the definition of common use, as it is the most popular rifle in the U.S. by a wide margin. You can't just restrict and regulate away the Second Amendment.
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