Joe Arpaio: Birther Senator (federal, support, administration, security)
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He would NOT be a natural born citizen if he was, in fact, born outside the US.
most likely, in that hypothetical, but....
there still isn't a solid definition of "NBC". at the time of his birth john mccain was specifically a "US national" and not a "US citizen" ( the law was later changed and made retroactive for previous births ).
i was hoping that ted cruz would force the issue onto the SCOTUS but..... didn't happen.
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most likely, in that hypothetical, but....
there still isn't a solid definition of "NBC". at the time of his birth john mccain was specifically a "US national" and not a "US citizen" ( the law was later changed and made retroactive for previous births ).
i was hoping that ted cruz would force the issue onto the SCOTUS but..... didn't happen.
George Romney had the same issue when he ran for president in 1968 (born in Mexico, but to two US citizen parents)
mike zullo never released either. one claimed that zullo misrepresented his findings and the other is a mystery.
It's very obvious that you have your Obama rose-colored glasses on. He's your hero. I got it. But, aside from your ardent partisanship, the facts point more toward a birth outside of the US than one in Hawaii. What's interesting, if you analyzed Obama's birth certificate with the same energy that you want to discredit Sheriff Arpaio and the two different forensic document experts from two different continents, then you would begin to see all the circumstantial evidence that create a cloud of doubt as to Obama's U.S. citizenship. This is quite possibly the biggest fraud ever committed on the United States, and this should concern everyone.
Final Note: Obama could release his college records to shed more light on his origin of birth, but he refuses to do so; there's simply no mainstream investigative will to pressure Obama to come clean. Again, the establishment adores Obama, so no one is pushing the investigative envelop to delve deeper into this potentially criminal matter against the people of the United States. Just as James Clapper willfully lied under oath about the NSA program, the establishment looked the other way because it was seen as an act for the betterment of America. Obama's presidency is seen as the same, even if it was illegitimate and fraudulent.
jerome corsi and WND were one of the many fringe outlets that continuously reported on it.
No mainstream journalists like Bob Woodward who went after Richard Nixon. Other media outlets like WND are quickly discredited and shamed to protect Obama.
It's very obvious that you have your Obama rose-colored glasses on. He's your hero. I got it. But, aside from your ardent partisanship, the facts point more toward a birth outside of the US than one in Hawaii. What's interesting, if you analyzed Obama's birth certificate with the same energy that you want to discredit Sheriff Arpaio and the two different forensic document experts from two different continents, then you would begin to see all the circumstantial evidence that create a cloud of doubt as to Obama's U.S. citizenship. This is quite possibly the biggest fraud ever committed on the United States, and this should concern everyone.
You talk, talk, talk about these purported forensic document expert reports proving his certificate is a fraud, yet you fail, again and again and again, to produce them. If you are so convinced they are real, where are they?
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It's very obvious that you have your Obama rose-colored glasses on. He's your hero. I got it. But, aside from your ardent partisanship, the facts point more toward a birth outside of the US than one in Hawaii. What's interesting, if you analyzed Obama's birth certificate with the same energy that you want to discredit Sheriff Arpaio and the two different forensic document experts from two different continents, then you would begin to see all the circumstantial evidence that create a cloud of doubt as to Obama's U.S. citizenship. This is quite possibly the biggest fraud ever committed on the United States, and this should concern everyone.
Final Note: Obama could release his college records to shed more light on his origin of birth, but he refuses to do so; there's simply no mainstream investigative will to pressure Obama to come clean. Again, the establishment adores Obama, so no one is pushing the investigative envelop to delve deeper into this potentially criminal matter against the people of the United States. Just as James Clapper willfully lied under oath about the NSA program, the establishment looked the other way because it was seen as an act for the betterment of America. Obama's presidency is seen as the same, even if it was illegitimate and fraudulent.
You talk, talk, talk about these purported forensic document expert reports proving his certificate is a fraud, yet you fail, again and again and again, to produce them. If you are so convinced they are real, where are they?
Show them to us.
You can't.
Because they do not exist.
We know it and you know it.
You know full well that they exist as Sheriff Arpaio held a press conference about it. Research it yourself.
also, if you follow the meta-data on the PDF, you'll find that it was scanned on a xerox workcenter which public records show the WH has.
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.... and the two different forensic document experts from two different continents,...
first, you have no idea what these "experts" did/didn't say.mike zullo refuses to release the reports. second, one of these "experts", reed hayes, has stated that zullo has misrepresented his report and it's impossible to judge an original document's authenticity from a PDF. his biggest claim was some things were "suspicious" ( i'd love to hear his opinion after seeing prof de queiroz's analysis ).
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Final Note: Obama could release his college records to shed more light on his origin of birth,...
no it wouldn't. admission papers are only kept for 5 years after a student last attended. occidental's records retention schedule is available online if you'd like to look that fact up for yourself or i'd be happy to give you a link ( it's a PDF file that can't be directly linked to or else i would have ).
what specific college record are you expecting that would discuss his "origin of birth"?
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