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We're not having this discussion within an ignorant vacuous space!
This topic has deeply rooted history. A long history of hatred, terror, discrimination, and murder.
A long history of white entitlement, white privilege, and white power! A white power enforced by whips, chains, axes, and nooses. A long history of complete displacement and deculturalization of people of color, whether they be of indigenous American, or African descent.
The Klan and their ignorant ilk have for centuries brutalized and terrorized people of color. As if the physical abuse wasn't enough, the persistent ignorance would transform and manifest itself in the form of social marginalization, racial segregation (Jim Crow), and willful neglect via discrimination in employment, education, and housing.
Apparently, this type of hateful ignorance is being perpetuated today via blantant judicial racial predujice preferring overtly aggressive police tactics over the rights of African-American men.
Referring to these African-American protesters wearing T-shirts denoting the fact that they were involuntarily born with black skin color, is merely raising the point that all of this suffering endured by the black community due to racist and overtly aggressive LE, would not be tolerated if their skin was white.
-And THAT is NOT racist! That's American history!
BTW
The historic problem lies in the fact that not too long ago, blacks were basically restricted from TV and radio ownership.
Blacks have continued to be restricted from real justice within our courthouses. Therefore, the significant necessity of a Black Caucus remains.
Perhaps if blacks had more "power", they could affect more just decisions being rendered within our corrupt courtrooms. Perhaps more Black "power" could assure competent LE officer presence within all of our communities...
Perhaps more Black "power" could benefit us all, by assuring more widespread equity throughout our nation.
It really should never have been about Black Power at all, except for the fact that White Power has been such a devastating abomination to our society as a whole, that we need something to offset its deleterious effects.
It really should be about Human Power, but it didn't start that way at all!
Got it!
Ya, that young adult, must have been in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Nothing good happens after dark.
His brother pretty much depicted the culture they were raised in.
Very primal and certainly tribal.
Makes the case that a very small % of only 13% of the total population commit 53% of all murders in the USA and amount for 69% of all violent crime, and 72% of all theft and robberies.
It is the culture expressed by the deceased's brother, that has caused this shoot first ask questions later, when it is a black American involved in a crime.
The whole woke and pro black movement is just a trend. It will burn itself out eventually. As for the police killing of an unarmed individual? This stuff happens all the time to all people's of different colors. From shaver who is white, to philando castile a black man. Thier needs to be better accountability when officers kill unarmed individual and officers should face possibility of being fired for poor judgement of a use of a deadly weapon.
Why are black folks angry? This is not all black folks. Black people are upset due to covert legal institutional racism such as loaning such people with sub prime mortgage loans which resulted in the near destruction of the black dollar. Black women have made gain in the past 40 years. Black men have not, which resulted in increase of black male youth offenders, broken families where black women put up with pookie and Ray rays instead of being with lame men. Due to economics, the Justice system is very unfair, but hey if you year to commit crime, make sure you have money or assess for a good lawyer and to pay bail. Committing crime so not cheap. Last. Like woke white groups, and folks like the alt right. Blacks on the liberal to extreme left have rejected the ideals of globalism which is push forward by folks in the center. Like whites who worry about decline of whites. Blacks also worry about the decline of their numbers. We are moving to a country where the majority will be brown, and not black or white. And for blacks the survival of black American culture is paramount when faced against threats of globalism on one end, white supremacy on one end but most importantly there black enemy c@@ns in the community. Woke blacks won't see an improvement for themselves in the name of social justice, and not equality. Last we as a society are falling into innate tribalism either by race on one end and class on the other.
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What we don't like in history has to be removed. We heard that message. Got it.
I don't like that history and like a statue I'm pulling it down because its so yesterday.
Not the current condition today. We shouldn't try to live in the past as if it is the current condition. Its not. It holds back progress and encourages the very thing its against.
It encourages a perpetual victimhood for some and tries to lay a guilty trip on others who weren't alive at the time and no hand in it.
The whole world went through the struggle of slavery and black slavery was late in coming to the world stage. The origin was tribal warfare in Africa and the winning tribe selling captives for export.
Shall we punish Africa and their decedents forever for something they did 150 years ago ?
No!
The whole world did NOT go through the "struggle" of slavery. The only people who went through the "struggle" of slavery, were the slaves themselves and their descendants.
The word "struggle" denotes some form of strife or resistance obstructive of a specific goal or objective. The objectives presented to African slaves were freedom and recognition of their equivalent humanity. These goals were persistently obstructed with indignant hate-filled ignorance.
The only struggle for whites in the American political arena was enveloped within the objective to maintain dominance over Africans and all people of color so that they could better control them and utilize them for their economic and political advantage. Whomever could not be controlled, had to be either eliminated or displaced..ie the indigenous Americans.
It's blantantly clear that African-Americans have consistently been the most hated and disenfranchised minority group here in America, by no fault of their own. They arrived as human beings, but were quickly dehumanized and converted into beast of burden. They were forced to live under a blanket of constant fear, ridicule, brutality, and derision.
All they knew and were required to know for life, was forced manual labor for the men and added sexual labor for the women.
Family members were bought and sold without notice. Little time or considerstion wss given to familial relationships. Similar to what a human might expect of a pig or horse family. They were simply regarded as animals!
Then next, they were set free to explore a resentful hate-filled white world filled with WHITE POWER and white racism.
With no cultural enrichment, no acquired social skills, no education, no ability to read or write, no ability to properly communicate with their white counterparts, they proceeded to eek out an existence. It's a triumphant feat just for them to have survived up to this point in time alone...
Yes! I'd say that they're victims! And they're victims who've been made to suffer not only the ignorance of others, but of their own, as well. This type of "victimhood" will take many more decades to overcome in order to create a truly "civilized" society.
However, it will require the joint efforts of all Americans and not just a few...
This can only be accomplished with compassion and education!
The whole world did NOT go through the "struggle" of slavery. The only people who went through the "struggle" of slavery, were the slaves themselves and their descendants.
The word "struggle" denotes some form of strife or resistance obstructive of a specific goal or objective. The objectives presented to African slaves were freedom and recognition of their equivalent humanity. These goals were persistently obstructed with indignant hate-filled ignorance.
The only struggle for whites in the American political arena was enveloped within the objective to maintain dominance over Africans and all people of color so that they could better control them and utilize them for their economic and political advantage. Whomever could not be controlled, had to be either eliminated or displaced..ie the indigenous Americans.
It's blantantly clear that African-Americans have consistently been the most hated and disenfranchised minority group here in America, by no fault of their own. They arrived as human beings, but were quickly dehumanized and converted into beast of burden. They were forced to live under a blanket of constant fear, ridicule, brutality, and derision.
All they knew and were required to know for life, was forced manual labor for the men and added sexual labor for the women.
Family members were bought and sold without notice. Little time or considerstion wss given to familial relationships. Similar to what a human might expect of a pig or horse family. They were simply regarded as animals!
Then next, they were set free to explore a resentful hate-filled white world filled with WHITE POWER and white racism.
With no cultural enrichment, no acquired social skills, no education, no ability to read or write, no ability to properly communicate with their white counterparts, they proceeded to eek out an existence. It's a triumphant feat just for them to have survived up to this point in time alone...
Yes! I'd say that they're victims! And they're victims who've been made to suffer not only the ignorance of others, but of their own, as well. This type of "victimhood" will take many more decades to overcome in order to create a truly "civilized" society.
However, it will require the joint efforts of all Americans and not just a few...
This can only be accomplished with compassion and education!
The most hated and most disenfranchised are not black Americans, but are native Americans. Native Americans had it far worse than black Americans.
These are President Obama's brothers and they're your brothers too....
People of color have a very long history of being abused, disenfranchised, brutalized, and murdered in this country!
From the genocide of indigenous Americans, to African slavery, to the imprisonment of Japanese Americans.
For far too long the color one's skin has been considered as the most salient and significant determinant of an American.
This racism has been accentuated most recently by the divisive propaganda propagated via various extremist right-winged racist LE agents, judiciary entities, and media pundits.
-And of course, the polarizing rhetoric espoused by our current POTUS doesn't help much either.
-And neither does this post!
Once again, it would appear as though a short remedial lesson in American history would be to your distinctive advantage...
If the want to protest that's fine. But to act in such an uncouth and uncivilized manner does nothing to further their cause. It only goes to show that the stereotypes about black folks is correct.
I think it's interesting that the OP ignores the fact that the black person/people he/she is afraid of is actually the brother of the young black man recently gunned down/murdered by Sacramento police in his own yard. The picture of the cell phone is a reference to the fact that the young man killed was unarmed and only had a cell phone.
The headline from your own link:
Quote:
The mayor and the city have failed, you hear me?': Brother of Stephon Clark interrupts Sacramento council meeting and takes the microphone to attack Sacramento cops who shot dead his unarmed sibling
We shouldn't debate with the covert racist on this thread. They don't need education about history. They chose to ignore it, let them. Their opinions don't matter since they are one of the many reasons this country hasn't progressed further.
The same people that display an outcry about public forms of protest that don't meet their agenda will be out destroying and loitering a college campus over a winning or losing sporting event. Your racist opinion is not wanted or needed.
Wanted to know ITA with this.
It is interesting the "agenda" of many of the posters here who like to act like "other" non-white American people are thugs or have an inferior culture, yet they are okay with unarmed people getting murdered in their own yards and want people to shut up and just deal with being murdered by law enforcement.
On white people being killed, I'll note I don't like anyone being killed by police unnecessarily, like what occurred to this young man in Sacramento. However, it is actually historically culturally accurate that black Americans are more likely to protest maltreatment of our population. It is unfortunately uniquely black American based on the fact that we've always been a "minority" population who have had to suffer from abuse of our government against us so we always have to be the voice of reason in this country in many areas such as these. I'm glad that more American citizens - black and non-black are being shown in media today being abused or killed by police for no reason as the mainstream is finally seeing that it is a wide reaching problem that needs to be addressed.
Why are black folks angry? This is not all black folks. Black people are upset due to covert legal institutional racism such as loaning such people with sub prime mortgage loans which resulted in the near destruction of the black dollar.
Give me a break. These mortgage products were made easier to get as a supposed MEANS to HELP black and minority home ownership. They were also widely used by folks of all colors, not just black. And know this: NOBODY put a gun to anybody's head to make them get a mortgage!
The people who were making $30k buying 500k houses in 2006?.... not the sharpest tools in the shed, and probably wouldn't have qualified for a mortgage under traditional means anyway.
To suggest it was some kind of conspiracy is asinine. Tons of people got caught up in the sub-prime crisis. It would have brought more than one legacy financial institution down if we (the taxpayer) hadn't bailed the succubuses out.
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