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Old 04-06-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Rather than engage in yet another P&C gun debate, I'll simply say that most of the US population doesn't fetishize or have an obsession with guns or believe in total gun anarchy, contrary to what many firearm/ammunition industry lobbyists and alt right apologists would have people believe. This includes many people who legally own them.
It's not so much of a gun fetish, it's more of a fear of when people like you control the government. The reason why we have the 2nd Amendment in the first place.
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Old 04-06-2018, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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A bonafide endorsement of terrorism is when individuals support a government that turns law abiding people into criminals by blaming and punishing them for the acts committed by criminals and the mentally deranged. Banning and criminalizing one's lawfully held property ex post facto is indeed punishment. Deerfield, Illinois just imposed a $1000 a day fine for those who do not comply.

It's no different than when the Nazi's scapegoated the Jews for all of Germany's problems following their humiliating defeat in World War One.

It's precisely that reason why we have a 2nd Amendment in the United States in the first place. To ward off tyranny and to ensure individual civil liberties from any type of governmental oppression. It's our duty under the Constitution to abolish that system of government by any means necessary either by the ballot box, refusing to comply or by taking up arms against said government.

There you have it! WOW

I really wish we could figure out when the system changed, that it is everyone else fault for a problem, rather than placing the blame on where it should go, on the person who committed the crime in the first place. I despise this blame the victim mentality.


The laws should be in place that if I commit a crime through my actions, that is where and how I should be punished. But punished for owning an inanimate object that can do absolutely nothing on it's own, and requires human intervention to operate. Now if I commit a crime with that inanimate object, then I can be punished. But not for owning it or wanting to own it.
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Old 04-06-2018, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The government will fine, cage or kill anyone it sees fit. It's anyone's guess on what they'll do to you if you won't comply with gun laws.
I think you're onto something there. It's already happening on a smaller scale like in Deerfield, Illinois where they imposed $1000 a day fine on it's citizens who refuse to comply with their so called "assault weapons" ban.
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Well, which way do you want it, MH ? Your side gets up on their soapboxes every day and yells about people breaking the law by trying to have a home here without the benefit of being "legal", but now you are advocating breaking laws yourself, by owning a weapon that may be deemed illegal.

Very selective outrage and compliance with laws your side has. I guess it is ok for your side to do illegal things, but no one else, is that right ?
This nation was based on Constitutional law and the individual civil liberties established under the Bill of Rights. When unjust laws are passed which abolish those rights it's our duty to overturn them and overthrow those who have enacted them.

Would you be okay if the government were to pass a law that rounded up all Muslims and incarcerated them based on what they might do? After all it would be the law if so enacted.

Very selective outrage and compliance with laws your side has.
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why should there be? Committing crimes is already illegal. Why should it be illegal to merely possess inanimate objects?

People aren’t restricted when it comes to owning automobiles. As long as they don’t break the law WITH the automobile there’s no problem. Why shouldn’t it be like that for firearms or anything else?

There was a time in this country where a person could pretty much do whatever they wanted so long as it didn’t violate someone else’s life, liberty etc. What was wrong with that? Not a damn thing!
Indeed, that's why we're in the situation we are in today. Class warfare and Socialism walk hand in hand.
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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The government will fine, cage or kill anyone it sees fit. It's anyone's guess on what they'll do to you if you won't comply with gun laws.
And, my friend....there is no guarantee what they will do to you after they take your guns....what's next,my friend?

Because they are certainly not detaining illegal immigrants with a rap sheet that would make the MS 13 proud, are they?

Three shootings on my old street in Texas in the last month. One million $+ hood. Hit on women and old folks getting out of the cars in their driveways, even behind gates. Video tapes show the tale. Another woman stuffed in the trunk by three perps with guns in local grocery store parking lot. Same high end hood.,BTW, she was a black civil servant with a concealed carry. One beat the crap out of her, and she shot the other two. All illegals with loooong rap sheets. Her black neighbors and church going friends, who are of every race...have about had it with this crap. These are people who felt diffrently before they and their families were exposed to this crime.

Let's give anyfoo who doubts or debates events such as this a free, nighttime trip complète with a drop off in the scary and trendy hood of your choice in Detroit without a gun, Tazar or knife

See how long you last there, then come back and chat

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Old 04-06-2018, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I really wish we could figure out when the system changed, that it is everyone else fault for a problem, rather than placing the blame on where it should go, on the person who committed the crime in the first place. I despise this blame the victim mentality.


The laws should be in place that if I commit a crime through my actions, that is where and how I should be punished. But punished for owning an inanimate object that can do absolutely nothing on it's own, and requires human intervention to operate. Now if I commit a crime with that inanimate object, then I can be punished. But not for owning it or wanting to own it.
We've been infiltrated through our lax immigration system both legal and illegal by our foreign enemies and globalists abroad. Who would like to see nothing better than to bring the United States down to the third world hell holes they've created. They're envious of our lifestyles and freedoms.

They're now teaching in our public educational system along with colleges and universities. Indoctrinating and poisoning impressionable young minds of the evils of the American way of life and the principles of which this country was founded.

If you'll remember, Nikita Khrushchev took off his shoe and pounded it on the table at the Polish embassy in Moscow on November 18, 1956. and proclaimed: "Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you. "My vas pokhoronim!". His proclamation is turning out to be true.
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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This nation was based on Constitutional law and the individual civil liberties established under the Bill of Rights. When unjust laws are passed which abolish those rights it's our duty to overturn them and overthrow those who have enacted them.

Would you be okay if the government were to pass a law that rounded up all Muslims and incarcerated them based on what they might do? After all it would be the law if so enacted.

Very selective outrage and compliance with laws your side has.
Don't forget, during WW2 the government rounded up people of Japanese descent and kept them locked up throughout the war. So the history of our government violating the constitution is there.
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Old 04-06-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: North America
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And there you have it. Another angry guy with a gun. Probably never voted a day
in his life.
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Old 04-06-2018, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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There you have it! You have a bonafide endorsement of terrorism on city-data.com. WOW
Well....one man's terrorist is another man's patriot.....

Beyond that.....

Let us know when NRA members start flying planes into buildings .
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