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View Poll Results: Has the current President of the United States empowered white supremacists?
Yes 118 57.28%
No 88 42.72%
Voters: 206. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-07-2018, 01:42 AM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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Has Trump empowered white supremacists? Yes. As others said, Steve Bannon, Steven Miller, Sebastian Gorka.

Is Trump himself racist: https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/122708...racism-history scroll to halfway down if you want the timeline - going all the way back to 1973!

In 1973, he was a (supposedly) mature 27 years old - long leaving the usual "college foolishness" years and was the head of a property management company. You'd think somebody smart enough to graduate from the Wharton School of Business at the U of PA would be smart enough to know about something like the Fair Housing Act. Then in the 80s he didn't want black workers on the floor at his Atlantic City casino (by the 80s, even most so-called "rednecks" in the Deep South would instantly agree that's a racist act). Really, look at the link above and you'll get the picture. And do I have to go through even a small fraction of his campaign stump speeches?

Trump's speeches are dangerous precisely because they inspire people to think with their reptilian brainstem, appealing to their kneejerk personal distaste of anything that's different, weird, stupid, weak, fragile, etc. He's practically inviting people to think "THOSE people don't deserve access to my informal information channels (i.e."grapevine") and social networks, plus my "helping hands" when it comes to favors and defense, etc. that make less stressful and difficult the day-to-day business of living and succeeding - and neither does any other normal self-respecting person!". That kind of attitude isn't going to lead to any kind of improvement in our society at all - let alone a sustainable one.

He's also damaging our social climate in general, even well outside of politics - especially about the importance of civility in maintaining a safe and stable society. He's basically saying that if you don't think like him or his base, then you don't deserve even the slightest scintilla of dignity and respect.

He truly is the worst president in the history of the United States. Hell, I'd rather have George W. Bush back in the White House than Don the Con, Demagogue Donald, or whatever moniker you want to use.

 
Old 04-07-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by agnostic soldier View Post
No, no matter how much the left likes to say he does. What the left considers a white supremacist is just anyone who isn't a raging social justice warrior.
This is true on many levels. That is why normal rank & fine Democrats are fleeing the party now that the inmates have taken over it's leadership.

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Originally Posted by MUTGR View Post
Democrats were the original white supremacists.
I always get a kick out of young and or naive Democrats who know nothing about American history or the formation of groups like the KKK. They just don't want to believe it. Then when you explain how one of the longest serving Democrats (Robert Bryd) was an actual high ranking official in the KKK, they think you are pulling their leg.

I like to educate them by having them watch this short video about how Republicans are evil, fascist, and of course racist;

Some have come away enlightened.


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Originally Posted by Eli34 View Post
Uh yea, you always have been allowed to speak your mind, just don’t expect regular people to buy your BS.
Rest assured normal talk and expression have become so rare due to PC that even movies and sitcoms cannot be made poking fun at anyone or anything. We wouldn't want to offend or trigger anyone, right?

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Originally Posted by Phil75230 View Post
Has Trump empowered white supremacists? Yes. As others said, Steve Bannon, Steven Miller, Sebastian Gorka.


He truly is the worst president in the history of the United States. Hell, I'd rather have George W. Bush back in the White House than Don the Con, Demagogue Donald, or whatever moniker you want to use.
One wonders what "news sources" you get that claims those guys are racists. Then again the definition of true racism has been perverted by leftists to include virtually anyone who does not conform to their rigid ideology.

As to your last comment, you can hear how the thought of Bush being back is so bad, you would want it ONLY because of how bad you think Trump is.
However, aren't you forgetting that liberal/progressives use to call both he and his father racists, homophobes and the like. This is not to mention even Reagan was called the same thing.
While Trump is very different than those three, having a (R) beside his name is all it takes to try and demonize someone as a ___ist or ____phobe.
That is the (D) strategy, aided by their propaganda arm, most of the MSM.


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Old 04-07-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I think that this is an important discussion.



meanwhile dems endorse terrorist groups that advocate killing cops and hate whites to inflame the other opposition hate groups.


Trump is not empowering white supremists, the dems are with hate and fear mongering they are telling the WS that Trump is empowering them.


Dems are Like little kids that spread rumors the old guy down the street will bake you in an oven and eat you and throw your bones to the big dog in his yard.
 
Old 04-07-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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meanwhile dems endorse terrorist groups that advocate killing cops and hate whites to inflame the other opposition hate groups.


Trump is not empowering white supremists, the dems are with hate and fear mongering they are telling the WS that Trump is empowering them.


Dems are Like little kids that spread rumors the old guy down the street will bake you in an oven and eat you and throw your bones to the big dog in his yard.
Sounds like you live in a bad neighborhood. Never knew an old guy like that. Why does Trump have those type of people near him or is he just pandering to anyone that will listen????
 
Old 04-07-2018, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Originally Posted by Phil75230 View Post
Has Trump empowered white supremacists? Yes. As others said, Steve Bannon, Steven Miller, Sebastian Gorka.

Is Trump himself racist: https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/122708...racism-history scroll to halfway down if you want the timeline - going all the way back to 1973!

In 1973, he was a (supposedly) mature 27 years old - long leaving the usual "college foolishness" years and was the head of a property management company. You'd think somebody smart enough to graduate from the Wharton School of Business at the U of PA would be smart enough to know about something like the Fair Housing Act. Then in the 80s he didn't want black workers on the floor at his Atlantic City casino (by the 80s, even most so-called "rednecks" in the Deep South would instantly agree that's a racist act). Really, look at the link above and you'll get the picture. And do I have to go through even a small fraction of his campaign stump speeches?

Trump's speeches are dangerous precisely because they inspire people to think with their reptilian brainstem, appealing to their kneejerk personal distaste of anything that's different, weird, stupid, weak, fragile, etc. He's practically inviting people to think "THOSE people don't deserve access to my informal information channels (i.e."grapevine") and social networks, plus my "helping hands" when it comes to favors and defense, etc. that make less stressful and difficult the day-to-day business of living and succeeding - and neither does any other normal self-respecting person!". That kind of attitude isn't going to lead to any kind of improvement in our society at all - let alone a sustainable one.

He's also damaging our social climate in general, even well outside of politics - especially about the importance of civility in maintaining a safe and stable society. He's basically saying that if you don't think like him or his base, then you don't deserve even the slightest scintilla of dignity and respect.

He truly is the worst president in the history of the United States. Hell, I'd rather have George W. Bush back in the White House than Don the Con, Demagogue Donald, or whatever moniker you want to use.
That is absolutely spot on, and probably the best post I will read on this forum in a week. Thanks for that.
 
Old 04-07-2018, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
Trump's got more dog whistles than Petco.
ah yes, 'dog whistle,' where someone (usually a liberal) takes the words of someone (usually a conservative) and rewrites them to mean something other than what was said. A form of 'shoving words in their mouth.' It's always easy to win the debate when you get to dictate what both sides are saying. Not a very honest form of debate, however.


They did this with Reagan, too. He was often accused of using "states' rights" as a dog whistle for 'white supremacy.' I posted about this once, and proved it to be a baseless accusation.
//www.city-data.com/forum/34858091-post1.html


(note link to article by Mark Shields is now broken but can be easily found other places by searching.)
 
Old 04-07-2018, 12:42 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Originally Posted by AllenSJC View Post
Has the current President of the United States empowered white supremacists?
IMO no.
Eight years of Obama created a lot of frustrations. Even if Hilary had won, there would have been the same venting from white males, maybe even more so. But Obama frustrated even black voters, since the quality of their lives didn't improve under his administration.
 
Old 04-07-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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IMO no.
Eight years of Obama created a lot of frustrations. Even if Hilary had won, there would have been the same venting from white males, maybe even more so. But Obama frustrated even black voters, since the quality of their lives didn't improve under his administration.
Obama succeeded in creating wealth for the wealthy .

The rich got a lot richer under Obama.

Maybe when he was talking about redistribution of wealth he meant from the poor to the wealthy ?

https://nypost.com/2014/10/12/obamas...t-to-the-rich/
 
Old 04-07-2018, 02:21 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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That is absolutely spot on, and probably the best post I will read on this forum in a week. Thanks for that.
It's one of the stupidest comments I've ever read and you just endorsed it.
 
Old 04-07-2018, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Obama succeeded in creating wealth for the wealthy .

The rich got a lot richer under Obama.

Maybe when he was talking about redistribution of wealth he meant from the poor to the wealthy ?

https://nypost.com/2014/10/12/obamas...t-to-the-rich/
Look who his backers were. Wall Street Investment Bankers like Goldman Sachs, Big Tech, and Communications Corporations, Unions whom he paid off at the expense of GM debt holders, large insurance companies, currency manipulators like Soros, and Public Sector Unions who got the benefit of a huge, and ever growing government. They ALL benefitted. The American worker, including white collar workers, and poor did NOT.
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