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The time for evangelicals to stop their support was during the campaign. They bought and now they are paying for the results.
Exactly.... even if all the allegations are 100% true it is no more outrageous than what they all knew before the election and they STILL voted for him. All this feigned concern now, of all times, makes me want to puke. They are worse than Trump himself. Everyone can see right through it.
It surprises me that the Evangelicals are losing their moral authority. I consider myself a Christian and I cannot agree or turn a blind eye to the way that Trump has been acting. Thou shall not kill. Thou shall not commit adultery. Thou shall not steal.
He has stated that he could go out in a crowd and shoot someone and still win the election.
He has committed adultery.
He has stolen when he refuses to pay people who have done work for him.
None of this is "fake" news, it's been proven! So while Evangelicals seem to back him because of disagreeing with abortion, he is still breaking other commandments. Why is it okay to break all of the rest? I guess I just don't seem to understand.
When religion is used not as a moral compass or for spiritual guidance but rather as a tool to wield power and influence, it’s easy to be choosy with what to turn a blind eye to.
IMO, the way I see the evangelical base it they want to stay in power for the money first of all and to help make that money keep flowing by supporting Trump and those who voted for him. In all reality everyone knows Trump is an Atheist at best and so do the evangelicals they know this as well. In the end they don't care this is business for them and nothing else.
I don't think he has enough brains to be an atheist, agnostic, whatever. We keep trying to project meaning into the things he says. The result is a massive headache!
I don't think he has enough brains to be an atheist, agnostic, whatever. We keep trying to project meaning into the things he says. The result is a massive headache!
If I had a billion dollars I'd run around nude & drunk in Times Sq w/ a US Flag wrapped around me & bottle of JD in my paws. Party on if you got the loot & power--flaunt it bababy! No?? U progressive bozos!
Are the Evangelical's bringing their wives and daughters to the meeting? Trump should grab some of that Evangelical ***** while he has the opportunity and watch those tools make excuses for him.
The truth is that if Trump did indeed bang a porn star and went raw dog to boot the man is a legend. L E G E N D
This just makes me love him more. Plus, I have it on good authority that Daniels "is a very nice girl."
Actually, the *****grabber is Satan in your example. The Evangelicals voted for the devil in droves. That's going to be a fun fact to square with the their God in the afterlife.
They would rather have the *** grabber than sharia law, and be forced to convert to Islam or be raped, murdered, assaulted, etc...
As allegations continue to swirl about the president and a payout to a porn star to cover up a sexual encounter, evangelical leaders are organizing a sit-down with President Trump in June, four sources with knowledge of the planned meeting tell NPR.
Trump has denied Daniels' allegations. Speaking with reporters on Air Force One on Thursday, he also denied knowing about the payment that his attorney, Michael Cohen, made to Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, days before the 2016 presidential election. She alleges she was paid $130,000 not to talk about the alleged affair.
Trump has been invited to take questions from the evangelical leaders for roughly 90 minutes during the meeting. It's not clear whether the allegations from Daniels — or another woman who alleges she had an affair with Trump, former Playboy model Karen McDougal — are likely to come up while the president is on stage in a more open session.
Christians don't expect the president to set the moral standard for them to follow, nor to be a spiritual leader.
It goes without saying that a president who is a longstanding paragon of Christian virtue is preferable to one who isn't. But for a newly minted born-again Christian like the present incumbent, his recent past is less relevant as long as he is striving to improve himself.
He will be expected to make progress in terms of his development. That's the whole point behind redemption. Otherwise, what would there be to redeem? If evangelicals held their nose up at everyone with a bad past, they wouldn't get much evangelism done.
Recent past? Where have you been? Trump took his mistress into the home where his wife and his son live. He doesn’t respect either of them. What makes you think he cares about anything or anybody other than himself?
Redemption. Is there redemption for Bill Clinton, for Hillary? Of course not. Hypocrites.
Keep telling yourself whatever it takes to ease your conscience but most people aren’t buying it. Trump will NEVER repent. No repentance , no redemption.
Compare this to a few years ago when he vacillated and stumbled in interviews over the idea of repentance.
Remember the context of the thread here is the evangelical perspective. This means in most cases a biblical, conservative world view that is anti-LGBT, anti-abortion, anti-feminism, and in many cases considers property rights and sovereignty sacrosanct.
If you're a liberal Christian or CNN subscriber, obviously you'll find that world view anathema and consider any personal progress in that direction to be a regress. From an evangelical point of view, however, the Donald is doing exactly what they voted him into office for.
That's not hypocrisy, but a theological contention, an area in which the evangelicals have the upper hand.
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The comparison comes up frequently in the evangelical world. Many evangelical speakers and media outlets compare Trump to Cyrus, a historical Persian king who, in the sixth century BCE, conquered Babylon and ended the Babylonian captivity, a period during which Israelites had been forcibly resettled in exile. This allowed Jews to return to the area now known as Israel and build a temple in Jerusalem.
While Cyrus is not Jewish and does not worship the God of Israel, he is nevertheless portrayed in Isaiah as an instrument of God — an unwitting conduit through which God effects his divine plan for history. Cyrus is, therefore, the archetype of the unlikely “vessel”: someone God has chosen for an important historical purpose, despite not looking like — or having the religious character of — an obvious man of God. [Bibi and the Christian Right: Trump the New Cyrus the Great | New York Magazine]
Scripture is full of examples in which deeply flawed individuals are anointed by God to serve as instruments of divine will.
Because Cyrus was pagan, for Trump to fulfill the role expected of him by evangelicals, he doesn't need to be morally perfect, or even Christian. All he needs to do is the dirty business of draining the swamp and make the USA more pleasing to their world view.
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