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Old 04-08-2018, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So you judge people on how they look and not whether they can pass a background check against a criminal background?
Makes as much sense as deciding anyone with brown skin and speaking Spanish must be here illegally. Books and covers and all that.

I will say, when people are deciding on the purchase of a gun, they talk to the salesman and reveal a lot more about themselves than they think they do, figuring their conversation will be safe. Requiring a mental health check to buy a firearm would make America safer in short order.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:45 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Again -- the kids doing that are probably the latest Nugent fans.

The ones marching, protesting, making political statements aren't the ones hanging out in Mom's basement with Tide pods and condoms.
Neither are those working hard and playing hard.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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But you will spend as much time as necessary defending one if he agrees with your prior beliefs. Gotcha.



You want to quote where I defended Ted's statement?
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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Back to my day at the gun store, as I mentioned it was packed with people. They were of all races, religious groups, and manner of people from what I could gather and from the lines and number of people filing out the background check forms, purchasing the firearms.

I can understand the allure of guns. The design and feel of it all. Some of them were downright works of art.

The shop we went to had all manner of weapons. I don't know if yesterday was atypical in the amount of people purchasing weapons, probably not.

I've been to gun shops before but not in a while.

My observations in the previous post still hold true. It did not apply to all the gun purchasers I saw obviously, but there were a few, that let us say, I was happy they were leaving in the opposite direction.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:49 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Did I say that?

Ted has no credibility, that's just the truth. He may say things you agree with, he may be factually correct, but that doesn't affect his credibility given his history of rhetoric and outbursts, he doesn't really see the outcome IF he acted on it.

That doesn't mean he shouldn't have the same rights as anyone else, because most people don't think through the conclusions of what they're saying, that applies to the journalist writing the article referenced, the OP, and pretty much everyone in this thread.

Go bark up some other tree.
Are they then, really pleading for other people to do the dirty work for them?

If they feel Ted should not be armed, they can go take his weapons themselves.
Don't Tread On Me, has not teeth. Unless it can be backed up.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:51 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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True -- they had help -- but the kids just didn't show up. These kids are active.

Whether or not you agree with their message is irrelevant. These kids are engaged.

We should all want that.

If your way is the right way -- these smart kids will find it.

You won't see anymore of David Hoggwash. He shot himself in the foot(pun intended)
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:52 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'm not law enforcement.
Oh I see. Someone else is going to do your dirty work for you, based upon your emotions.
You are more of a tyrant than you realize.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:56 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Sorta like suggesting your sinking boat is better off because you have the freedom to refuse to bail.

All those countries showing greater freedoms than yours are more often than not called socialist/communist hell holes by yourself and others on here.

You cannot have it both ways.

No. You are making the case, providing evidence, for the recent Conservative trend overtaking the USA to reduce the control government has over our liberties.... Still, without the 2nd, we will lose the 1st to beech about it, for sure.
The more government is involved, the less liberties you have. Where do you think the grand idea to restrict our liberty comes from?
The Constitution?

Just think of all the liberties we would have under Hillary's authoritarian control?
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:59 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Does the NRA speak for you?
Why would they?
They have compromised my rights more than any other organization.
They have written all modern day gun legislation themselves, to be a compromise in what the government wants.

I don't need an organization, to read the text of the Bill of Rights.
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Old 04-08-2018, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The right to bear arms is not God given. The right was given to law abiding citizens by elected officials.
No.

The right to self defense is a natural right that exists independently from government.

Government's job is to help insure that right is not violated....not to allow or deny that right at it's own whims.

Thus the phrase "shall not be infringed". .
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