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Originally Posted by katygirl68
Cold War walls were to keep people from leaving their own countries. China and Israel and every medieval castle have proven that walls to keep people out work pretty well.
Mongolians got over the Great Wall of China several times
Illegals can't vote; the wall is a bad use of money, labor and construction materials; and honestly, if Mexico wants to build a wall, that they want to pay for, let them have at it. But us forcing them to pay for a wall we build is an act of war
Act of war?
Really?
Even if true in a loony tunes belief system, Mexico could not fight any type of a war with us and hope to survive, whether it be economic or otherwise.
As to the reason we need a wall, I will give you the best one I have never heard anyone mention.
A well built wall will provide a physical barrier that will be a major deterrent, and is a permanent structure not subject to the political winds of one administration to the next.
One needs look no further than hypocrite John McCain who says build the wall to get reelected, then is against it until the next election.
Plus, if we get another ultra lib in the WH like Obama again, he cannot order the BP to stop doing interdiction, turn off the surveillance, etc.
Without it, agreements can be reneged on, laws ignored, etc.
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Originally Posted by Vector1
Act of war?
Really?
Even if true in a loony tunes belief system, Mexico could not fight any type of a war with us and hope to survive, whether it be economic or otherwise.
As to the reason we need a wall, I will give you the best one I have never heard anyone mention.
A well built wall will provide a physical barrier that will be a major deterrent, and is a permanent structure not subject to the political winds of one administration to the next.
One needs look no further than hypocrite John McCain who says build the wall to get reelected, then is against it until the next election.
Plus, if we get another ultra lib in the WH like Obama again, he cannot order the BP to stop doing interdiction, turn off the surveillance, etc.
Without it, agreements can be reneged on, laws ignored, etc.
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You guys just don't get it.
One, other countries might come to Mexico's defense and see us as a bully, and then you have the makings of World War III
As long as life is better here than in Mexico, they're never going to stop. We could always just try to take over Mexico and make it part of the US, completely overthrowing their government, but again, back to World War III.
If we build a wall, we can't make Mexico pay for it; all of us taxpayers are going to pay for it
1- Businesses still thriving today and he is POTUS
2- See Democrats land-grab of private property United States Supreme Court KELO et al. v. CITY OF NEW LONDON et al., (2005)
Actually, the Trump brand has taken some major hits. Not exactly 'thriving'.
And, funny you should mention New London, as I hail from SE Connecticut and am familiar with that case and the corrupt Republican who initiated it. Maybe you should 'see' it.
"...The case originated with a development project in the Fort Trumbull area of New London, a small city in Connecticut. The neighborhood had fallen on difficult economic times in the 1990s after the closure of a naval research facility. City officials and others hoped to revitalize it.
...The administration of Republican Governor John Rowland hoped to expand his political base by promoting development in New London; but to avoid having to work directly through the heavily Democratic city government, they helped resuscitate the long-moribund New London Development Corporation, a private nonprofit organization established to aid the city with development planning...."
John Rowland's legacy could not be much worse around New London anyway, where everyone still lives with an empty Fort Trumbull peninsula, scorched earth by eminent domain, a program made possible by millions of dollars from the Rowland administration...."
"...Donald Trump happens to be a huge admirer of the Supreme Court's Kelo decision. Indeed, Trump has repeatedly praised Kelo as "wonderful" and made it quite clear that he thinks the Court got it right. In fact, not only does Trump love Kelo, Trump has tried to personally profit from Kelo-style eminent domain abuse..."
One, other countries might come to Mexico's defense and see us as a bully, and then you have the makings of World War III
As long as life is better here than in Mexico, they're never going to stop. We could always just try to take over Mexico and make it part of the US, completely overthrowing their government, but again, back to World War III.
If we build a wall, we can't make Mexico pay for it; all of us taxpayers are going to pay for it
Still repeating yourself? Why would other countries see us as a bully and side with Mexico for securing our own borders and why should we care if they did? It certainly isn't going to start World War III.
Illegal aliens will continue to try to come here but with the wall and removing all the incentives to do so we would find far less trying and far less succeeding. What part of that don't you get? It's about cutting the numbers, duh.
I have no desire for us to overthrow the Mexican government or to have anything to do with Mexico. They haven't been our friend they have been our enemy.
I've already told you numerous times and provided a link as to how Mexico can pay for the wall, involuntarily yet your keep repeating this over and over. Why is that? Even if the taxpayer ends up paying for it, it would be cheaper than the over $100 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us. Are you done now as apparently it is you that just doesn't get it.
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Still repeating yourself? Why would other countries see us as a bully and side with Mexico for securing our own borders and why should we care if they did? It certainly isn't going to start World War III.
Illegal aliens will continue to try to come here but with the wall and removing all the incentives to do so we would find far less trying and far less succeeding. What part of that don't you get? It's about cutting the numbers, duh.
I have no desire for us to overthrow the Mexican government or to have anything to do with Mexico. They haven't been our friend they have been our enemy.
I've already told you numerous times and provided a link as to how Mexico can pay for the wall, involuntarily yet your keep repeating this over and over. Why is that? Even if the taxpayer ends up paying for it, it would be cheaper than the over $100 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us. Are you done now as apparently it is you that just doesn't get it.
We would be the bully for making Mexico pay for something they didn't ask for or had no part in
Actually, the Trump brand has taken some major hits. Not exactly 'thriving'.
And, funny you should mention New London, as I hail from SE Connecticut and am familiar with that case and the corrupt Republican who initiated it. Maybe you should 'see' it.
"...The case originated with a development project in the Fort Trumbull area of New London, a small city in Connecticut. The neighborhood had fallen on difficult economic times in the 1990s after the closure of a naval research facility. City officials and others hoped to revitalize it.
...The administration of Republican Governor John Rowland hoped to expand his political base by promoting development in New London; but to avoid having to work directly through the heavily Democratic city government, they helped resuscitate the long-moribund New London Development Corporation, a private nonprofit organization established to aid the city with development planning...."
John Rowland's legacy could not be much worse around New London anyway, where everyone still lives with an empty Fort Trumbull peninsula, scorched earth by eminent domain, a program made possible by millions of dollars from the Rowland administration...."
"...Donald Trump happens to be a huge admirer of the Supreme Court's Kelo decision. Indeed, Trump has repeatedly praised Kelo as "wonderful" and made it quite clear that he thinks the Court got it right. In fact, not only does Trump love Kelo, Trump has tried to personally profit from Kelo-style eminent domain abuse..."
You obviously don't understand our sense of humour.
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