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Old 04-08-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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The people who have it the worst in the U.S are the working class who don't qualify for any government handouts.Often these would be low income workers with no dependents or those who make slightly above the cut off for handouts.

The quality of life the welfare class lives is much higher than the non-welfare class just above them. The welfare class gets free food with food stamps, discount housing with Section 8, free cash with welfare, free medical with Medicaid. Not a worry in the world they are living the good life. As an added bonus the welfare class doesn't have to worry about inflation as all their handouts are adjusted for it.

It is time for the non-welfare working poor to be furious with the welfare poor. They should be coming out with pitchforks. There should be big protests in front of Section 8 communities.

The best thing the non-welfare poor could do is vote for far right wing politicians. Yes they mostly vote for Republicans today but the GOP does nothing to cut welfare programs. We need a replacement party (or a revised Republican party) that will make it priority #1 to end all welfare programs.
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Old 04-08-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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working class has more freedom... being poor based on how you budget is a choice
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The people who have it the worst in the U.S are the working class who don't qualify for any government handouts.Often these would be low income workers with no dependents or those who make slightly above the cut off for handouts.

The quality of life the welfare class lives is much higher than the non-welfare class just above them. The welfare class gets free food with food stamps, discount housing with Section 8, free cash with welfare, free medical with Medicaid. Not a worry in the world they are living the good life. As an added bonus the welfare class doesn't have to worry about inflation as all their handouts are adjusted for it.

It is time for the non-welfare working poor to be furious with the welfare poor. They should be coming out with pitchforks. There should be big protests in front of Section 8 communities.

The best thing the non-welfare poor could do is vote for far right wing politicians. Yes they mostly vote for Republicans today but the GOP does nothing to cut welfare programs. We need a replacement party (or a revised Republican party) that will make it priority #1 to end all welfare programs.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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As long as you keep those who subside on the scraps from the rich people's table fighting over who gets more scraps, they'll not stop to wonder why they're being fed scraps in the first place. But Jay F, you are not supposed to broadcast that strategy. Bad drills.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I understand your angle and actually agree with the premise but the answer isn't more social engineering by the State.

Capitalism is an all-or-nothing game. It's just the way it is and there's nothing any of us can do about it...except go all in.

End the welfare State? No. End the State as a whole. No Band-Aids will heal the cancer of statism/socialism.

Free association. Personal contracts. Agreed upon dispute resolution councils. No monopolized currency enforced at gunpoint. Private property respected and properly owned (not bamboozled via State edicts).
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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Stop working, and tell me how much better your life gets.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Stop working, and tell me how much better your life gets.
For those right above the State's threshold for benefits it improves dramatically once they drop down to the welfare class.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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For those right above the State's threshold for benefits it improves dramatically once they drop down to the welfare class.
I wish this myth would die the nasty death it deserves.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:32 PM
 
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For those right above the State's threshold for benefits it improves dramatically once they drop down to the welfare class.
No. That’s not how it works. If you earn just above the limit for public assistance, and you take a pay cut, you will receive a SMALL SNAP subsidy. You don’t get the full complement of assistance. Most people on section 8 are actually working and paying rent. They just aren’t paying market rate. Millions of public assistance recipients work, as a mater of fact work is a requirement for many programs.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I disagree with your premise, but putting that aside, are you suggesting that ending welfare will somehow make life better for those just above the poverty line? How?
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