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Many, if not most, of the moderating positions on the right and center (independents) tend to be more toward the liberal end of things. Examples...
1. Gay Rights
2. Civil Rights
3. Pot decrim and/or legalization
4. Organic and/or healthier food.
5. Cleaner air, water and land (oil barons and the current EPA aside).
6. Women's Rights (not feminism, but the rights of their own daughters to compete in the workplace and determine their own destiny).
7. The ideal that perhaps we should not be involved in forever wars (not yet put into practice, but most agree).
8. Free Trade (with caveats, of course).
9. Consumer Rights (many are still fighting against these, but in general we have more).
10. Health Care - more and more have realized what the left said...and started doing (MA, HI).....that we need to cover most everyone. We can debate how to pay for it.
I'm sure people can rant and rave about this and that, but these are BIG issues - each affecting millions of Americans (some of them 100's of millions) and the trend is toward liberalism. In fact, some of them are not even talking points on the right any longer...
Obviously the Right has largely given up the "Christian Moral and Ethics" and the "I only do it with my wife" ideals....which, again, points in a liberal direction. I'm not saying that's all a good thing (parts are open to debate) - still, the Right seems more than OK with it.
Because more of these issues have been settled toward the liberal end, it has left the Right to either wither or come up with new "wedges"....something which they are great at doing. I'd say they currently have dug up
Russia - love it or not.
Guns - we must not only own them (if we want), but make it the single biggest issue in our lives.
Racism, White Supremacy, etc - this one has been the most useful over the past couple of decades.
The key is that people need to vote. The article has a good point though and let's hope it is correct. Most Americans, like myself, are more centrist. It is only in a vacuum like this site that someone like me would be considered, what do they say, 'communist, Marxist, socialist Nazi' or some such combo nonsense. The left in America is actually closer to the right in more advanced countries. We used to be a beacon and the light was dimming but don the con just pissed on and extinguished that light. Anyway, the next generation gives me hope. This November will be a good or bad sign.
This is very true. I used to belong to a forum run by a Portuguese guy who was FAR to the right in his country and in europe. He as a "conservative" and family values guy and quite wealthy due to his own hard work and innovation.
Yet eventually the Right on his forums (which had nothing to do with politics) turned against him both in terms of policy...and, worse yet, in a deeply personal manner. He shut down the popular forum.
But the point is/was that most of the current Dem. policies are centrist or center-right or center-left. All in all, in Europe they would be considered Center-Right.
Trump and the Republican Party would embark on such an unprecedented orgy of regressive social policies, the majority of average Americans would finally have no choice but to see them for the corporate whores and sociopathic monsters they are and turn to the left. And it looks as though that is exactly what is happening.
What tells me that your perspective is unrealistic is that you label push-back against the unquestionably extreme and unprecedented social policies of the Left, which cause sane people to feel revulsion, as that of "sociopathic monsters". Most people see the Left's extremism as extremist.
And there is no greater signal for who the "corporate whores" are then the fact that most corporations, as well as the nationals security complex, backed Hillary and the Dems. Sorry, you aren't the rebel alliance. You're clearly the Empire.
What a joke article. Radical republican policies drive Americans to the even more radical Left. That does not even make any logical sense.
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So....alternate universes are actually a thing then?
How's the weather over there?
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BS
Trump is having more success and all Dems have is BS
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What tells me that your perspective is unrealistic is that you label push-back against the unquestionably extreme and unprecedented social policies of the Left, which cause sane people to feel revulsion, as that of "sociopathic monsters". Most people see the Left's extremism as extremist.
And there is no greater signal for who the "corporate whores" are then the fact that most corporations, as well as the nationals security complex, backed Hillary and the Dems. Sorry, you aren't the rebel alliance. You're clearly the Empire.
It's intriguing to see the conservatives once again sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting "nonononono I don't hear it it's not happening!". Are any of you capable of making an actual argument here, or is "nah I don't believe that" all ya got?
Here's another one for you to deny... support for labor unions is at a 15- to 20-year high, depending on how the question is asked. Because people are sick and tired of being sodomized by the corporate Republican whores.
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- In the U.S., 61% of adults say they approve of labor unions, the highest percentage since the 65% approval recorded in 2003. The current labor union approval is up five percentage points from last year and is 13 points above the all-time low found in 2009.
Face it, conservatives. You're a dying demographic, increasingly becoming little more than a statistical glitch. Despite your best efforts to stupidify the nation's children, Americans are increasingly aware that the rest of the world is passing us by, and we are leaving you cultural dinosaurs behind.
Trump is having more success and all Dems have is BS
If you consider huge budget deficits, huge debt increases, stacking his cabinet with neocons, signing a $1.3 trillion omnibus, banning certain private property (bump stocks), and completely selling out his base a success, than I shudder to think what you think is failure.
This is exactly what I expected might happen when Trump was first elected. I said one of the most likely outcomes would be that once they had total control over the government, Trump and the Republican Party would embark on such an unprecedented orgy of regressive social policies, the majority of average Americans would finally have no choice but to see them for the corporate whores and sociopathic monsters they are and turn to the left. And it looks as though that is exactly what is happening.
What exactly are Trump's radical republican policies? The guy is barely a republican to begin with and the Republican party has fought him on many of his key initiatives, such as a border wall.
It's intriguing to see the conservatives once again sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting "nonononono I don't hear it it's not happening!". Are any of you capable of making an actual argument here, or is "nah I don't believe that" all ya got?
What argument are you attempting to forward and what do you wish to argue? I'll argue anything that you wish. An assertion that the Dems have support is not an argument. Its an assertion. Whatever you wish to argue, I'm here for you. Name it.
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Here's another one for you to deny... support for labor unions is at a 15- to 20-year high, depending on how the question is asked. Because people are sick and tired of being sodomized by the corporate Republican whores.
Again, those corporations support the Dems. That isn't a denial of reality, but an assertion of it. Where is your "argument" against that objective fact?
Poor people supporting labor unions doesn't mean a thing at the polls.
People join what they need to to eat better, but don't assume that other social issues don't take voting preference. Eating in a socially disconnected immigrant ghetto is a pretty miserable existence.
Until the labor unions are existentially threatened by the conservatives on a large scale, which isn't likely, you won't see the lower class white union members voting en masse for the liberals whose bizarre, degenerate, and extreme social policies cause most of these people to gag. Most of the lower classes that are typical of union members (lower class whites) voted for Trump. That's a fact.
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Face it, conservatives. You're a dying demographic, increasingly becoming little more than a statistical glitch.
We're okay. And in power. And you sound scared and like you are attempting to self-soothe.
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Despite your best efforts to stupidify the nation's children, Americans are increasingly aware that the rest of the world is passing us by, and we are leaving you cultural dinosaurs behind.
For the most ironic post that I've read in a long time, and that likely just won CD, I wish to point out to you that "stupidify" isn't a word university scholar.
Thus, we're confident in education if your ilk represents the alternative.
The "rest of the world" largely depends on and reacts to us. We're unworried. We "culutural dinosaurs" represent an immense split from the liberal cultural paradigm that isn't likely to heal.
The liberals tried to push the post WWII cultural liberalization as hard and as long as they could, until the wheels recently fell off. You'll need another WWII type of event to get that momentum back, and it isn't going to happen because the split is not between nations but within nations.
In other words, you're agenda is permanently screwed. Again, you are self-soothing because you are aware of this fact. It comes off as desperate and scared, as if you are trying to convince yourself of the things that you are vainly attempting to have conservatives "face".
The Democrats have abandoned just about everything that made them good from back in the day. They've gone too far left and if they don't come back more toward the middle the ultimate comb over Cheeto boy is going to win again.
I'm a man with no party.......
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