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Trump is not above the law. Remember Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon?
The law is only as good as its enforcement. Nixon lost the support of his Republican colleagues in the Senate. He no longer had the support of the 34 Senators necessary to prevent conviction in an impeachment trial.
Consider all the stuff Trump is doing and how we get a lot of lip service from his colleagues condemning it but they still ultimately support him.
While I hope you are wrong, unfortunately, from some of the lunacy we have seen in the past year or so, you could absolutely be correct. Trump is a loose cannon, and unstable as Hell. He also feels invincible, so he might just take that leap.
Right now, he is weighing his options. If he allows Mueller to finish the job, he knows a lot of very damaging information about him will be brought out. If he fires Mueller, he will take some heat, but maybe not as bad as what he would get if Mueller indicts him or he is considered for impeachment.
With as crazy as this whole ordeal is, I would not bet either way. When you are dealing with an unpredictable , mentally unstable individual, you never know what they will do.
You don't think that Trump getting rid of Mueller by any strategy is going to be a Constitutional crisis of epic proportion?
I think it will be the fastest lawsuit to get to the Supreme Court since Bush v Gore---
And I wouldn't count on Trump winning
The Supreme Court has not been too supportive of Trump's moves on ICE legislation
I think even with the new guy on the Court which Trump appointed there is good chance that the Supremes still respect the rule of law and want to maintain a balance of power between the DoJ and the WH
Just remember that the DoJ work for the PEOPLE of the US--not to protect Trump from being investigated
Clinton went through his own laborious investigation w/o trying to fire Ken Starr
Nixon tried to get rid of his investigation and it blew up in his face
I know Trump doesn't pay attention to history much but the one thing he apparently was interested in when he met with Henry Kissinger during the transition period (when we thought he was picking his brains about foreign policy/Russia/China) was the Nixon/Watergate debacle...
So even then Trump likely could see the Russia hacking story was going to be big problem for him...
The law is only as good as its enforcement. Nixon lost the support of his Republican colleagues in the Senate. He no longer had the support of the 34 Senators necessary to prevent conviction in an impeachment trial.
Consider all the stuff Trump is doing and how we get a lot of lip service from his colleagues condemning it but they still ultimately support him.
Kennedy and Graham both came out and said "don't do it"
Of course that is likely a red flag to Trump
I imagine Dershowitz was very persuasive but Trump always likes to hear what he wants to hear
His "legal advisor" is Judge Janine most of the time
And if Dershowitz WAS so firmly in Trump's camp why hasn't he joined that law team
Because he knows Trump is a lousy payer and he doesn't have case law to support firing Mueller
Clinton took the heat for the Starr investigation
Nixon tried to fire his independent counsel and it totally backfired--
Everyone knew he was guilty as soon as that happened...
It just took time to play out
By trying to fire Mueller/Rosenstein/Sessions Trump further dives into the black hole of obstruction of justice
He has never had to deal with a situation he could not bully or "negotiate" his way out of...
And he certainly doesn't like to hear advice that goes against his own desires...
The ability to take constructive criticism is just not in a narcissist's wheelhouse...
His "base" might support that move but I think more Republican voters would see it as proof that there is guilt amidst all the smoke...
It will not help at the mid-terms...
Why do you think Ryan won't run for re-election?
He knows the future is not promising...
It would end the scam. The FBI is now running roughshod in every area of Trump's life. That is enough to stop it. It is an abomination to our country, our elected president and every voter who put Trump in office. It is a scam on this country and every voter. We know full well it is a charade produced to create negative taking points. I am not fooled. No Russian collusion and Mueller is dirty. His ties to the Bush family speaks volumns.
If Mueller is fired, the investigation will not miss a beat. He has sixteen of the most talented attorneys in the country on his team, and I'm sure he has set it up so that it will continue without him. I am also pretty certain that if the whole investigation is shut down, he has shared enough evidence with state AGs and DAs that state charges will follow as soon as the lights in Mueller's office are turned off.
Unless Trump thinks he can fire and disband the entire Judicial Branch of the Federal Government, he is an abject fool to believe that firing Mueller is anything more than bringing coals to Newcastle.
The FBI, by the way, is operating by the book. Had Trump also done that, like Obama did, there would never have been a Special Prosecutor appointed.
There would have been a special prosecutor because the GOP in House and Senate didn't want to know what was going on inside Trump's campaign that might have been tied to Russian efforts to impede/sway the US election...
The people that voted for Trump and the people he has gained since the emotional and unstable Democrat spectical that has been performed, Trump could fire Mueller and still be re-elected.
What does that mean--
Any move by the military into domestic political policy is a Constitutional violation---
What was going to stop them?
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