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Old 04-10-2018, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Good God religion is for weak-minded people...
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Old 04-10-2018, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I don't get it. Muslims believe in God and pray five times a day. What was her concern?
They pray to the same god to boot. You'd think that god would have explained a little better how he wanted them to interact with and treat each other.
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Old 04-10-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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They pray to the same god to boot. You'd think that god would have explained a little better how he wanted them to interact with and treat each other.
They are NOT the "same God".

I could go on but I'm sure that is more appropriate to the religion forum.
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Old 04-10-2018, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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This was first reported 3 years ago in 2015. Why is it being recirculated, now?

It’s not reasonable to form a rational opinion when only one side of the story is told.
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Old 04-10-2018, 08:06 PM
 
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UW administrator: 'Do you read your Bible on campus?!'


Susana Asberry teaches a writing class at UW. She was placed on probation after answering a student's question:





The Muslim student wears a head-covering, as the interviewer (at link) points out, literally wearing her religion on her sleeve. And Susana points out that there are areas in the classroom designated for Muslim students to pray. Apparently they bring their prayer rugs, leave them in the designated area, and go to pray when it is time to do so. Susana says she never had a problem with this, and obviously there was no discipline being issued by the UW admin for it.


Along with the probation, she is required to undergo re-education. She said that a union rep was with her during the meeting where the discipline was issued. Iff the union lets this stand, she probably has a lawsuit against the union for allowing 'disparate treatment.'
Wow, a real life God's Not Dead 2!
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Old 04-10-2018, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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This was first reported 3 years ago in 2015. Why is it being recirculated, now?

It’s not reasonable to form a rational opinion when only one side of the story is told.
I believe you must be mixing this story up w/ something else. I heard the instructor interviewed just yesterday. The discipline (probation) was issued in Jan, 2018.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Good God religion is for weak-minded people...
That's a bit rough.

Just as long as they follow the NAP and private property rights they can do what they want like everyone else. And if/when they break that you attack those sins...not their religion.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:23 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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Giving an assignment where students argue against gay marriage when you've got a gay student in class is incredibly stupid no matter how you spin it. All politics and pedagogy of it aside, it's just a jerk move. There are an infinity of other topics you could use to teach debate skills.

If I had a professor advise me to "pray" because my boyfriend dumped me, I personally wouldn't file a formal complaint or anything, but I certainly would think she was a dumbass with boundary issues, and make note of it on her course evaluation.

If the bit that the OP chose to quote were her only questionable incident, she almost certainly wouldn't have landed in hot water. But per even her own account in the biased article in the link, there were additional incidents that contributed to her being put on a plan of improvement. I rather suspect if UW were at liberty to talk about it, they'd have even more issues besides what she chose to disclose.

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Old 04-10-2018, 11:41 PM
 
Location: NC
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my God is real, sounds like yours might not be
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:07 PM
 
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This was first reported 3 years ago in 2015. Why is it being recirculated, now?

It’s not reasonable to form a rational opinion when only one side of the story is told.
Per Ms Asberry, 3 years ago a Muslim student in one of her classes complained about feeling unsafe. At that time, a review was conducted and she was warned not to bring up God in the classroom. Then, this past school year, she was teaching debate and one of the topics was same-sex marriage. Obviously, in the discussions, religious opposition to same-sex marriage came up. She had two students in the classroom who were gay and involved in a relationship together. They objected to some of her comments regarding same-sex marriage and complained. Ms Asberry is a conservative Christian. She feels the review that had to be conducted because of the complaint, and the school's requirement that she attend a seminar on "Race, Bias and Dissonance" because the school's policy is that classrooms embrace inclusiveness is unfair. The school also asked that she administer regular student evaluations (which she'd been doing anyway), and that her supervisor would observe her in a few unannounced drop-ins in her classroom. She filed her own complaint for discrimination, and the review of that complaint determined that she wasn't being discriminated against. She disagrees.
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