University of Washington disciplines instructor for mentioning God

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

That's a bit rough.

Just as long as they follow the NAP and private property rights they can do what they want like everyone else. And if/when they break that you attack those sins...not their religion.

[Rambler123]

Originally Posted by wutitiz

I don't think that there would have been complaints from the right if a teacher mentioned 'Allah.' Can you supply just one example of that?

Are you seriously claiming the religious right in this nation has no problem with Muslims?

Here's just one example from the far-right losing it over a school assignment about Islam and the complexities of calligraphy. Because, you know, learning about other faiths apparently equals "trying to force me to convert!"

https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/us/vi...ork/index.html

Do your own research.

[calgirlinnc]

Originally Posted by Rambler123

Are you seriously claiming the religious right in this nation has no problem with Muslims?

Here's just one example from the far-right losing it over a school assignment about Islam and the complexities of calligraphy. Because, you know, learning about other faiths apparently equals "trying to force me to convert!"

https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/us/vi...ork/index.html

Do your own research.

And liberal atheists would have a fit if their children were assigned to write the text of John 3:16 or something similar.

The school did the correct thing in reissuing the assignment but taking religion out of it: "It removed the shahada from world religion instruction. "A different, non-religious sample of Arabic calligraphy will be used in the future," it said."

That's what libs want after all, right?

[UWretiree]

The people I know who are most upset by this are UW graduates, faculty and retirees of a very liberal bent. One cannot teach many subjects - literature, religion, philosophy, history - without reference to God. It is appropriate to ensure that such references are not promoting a particular religion as practiced by the instructor. But education should make a student uncomfortable at times ... it should also promote honest communication in which an instructor can answer a student's question. It may be time to reconsider the allocation of charitable donations.

[UWretiree]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

This was first reported 3 years ago in 2015. Why is it being recirculated, now?

It’s not reasonable to form a rational opinion when only one side of the story is told.

Because it was on the KIRO 7 last night?

[illinoisphotographer]

Originally Posted by calgirlinnc

They are NOT the "same God".

I could go on but I'm sure that is more appropriate to the religion forum.

Uh, yeah they are. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all Abrahamic religions and God/Allah is the same character in each.

What differs is the prophets, the characters of Jesus and of Muhammad.

[Pretzelogik]

Christian-Bad Muslim-Good that is the current left wings playbook.

[calgirlinnc]

Originally Posted by illinoisphotographer

Uh, yeah they are. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all Abrahamic religions and God/Allah is the same character in each.

What differs is the prophets, the characters of Jesus and of Muhammad.

You are wrong as wrong can be.

In Christianity, Jesus is not a "character". He is God made into flesh.

Mohammed is not God nor a part of God, and moreover Islam does not recognize that Jesus is divine.

This explains it better than I can:

"Muslims do not speak of God as their heavenly Father. In the Islamic faith, Allah is not only a different name for god; the deity it designates is far more impersonal than the God of the Bible. Father—the very name that Jesus gave us as the designated name for use in prayer—is a name that simply does not fit Allah as depicted in the Quran.

Furthermore, Muslims claim that Allah has no son. This represents a head-on collision between the God of the Bible and Allah. For, as the Bible makes clear, the one and only true God is most perfectly revealed as the Father of the Son, Jesus Christ. In the Gospel of John, Jesus repeatedly teaches that no one has truly known the Father, except by the Son. In one of the most clarifying verses in the New Testament, Jesus declared Himself to be “the way, and the truth, and the life,” adding, “No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6).

Because Muslims deny that God has a son, they explicitly reject any Trinitarian language. From the very starting point, Islam denies what Christianity takes as its central truth claim: the fact that Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the Father. If Allah has no son, then Allah is not the God who reveals Himself through the Son. How then can calling God “Allah” not lead to anything but confusion—and worse?

Islam teaches that the doctrine of the Trinity is blasphemous. But the Christian faith is essentially and irreducibly Trinitarian. The Bible reveals that the Father is God, that the Son is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. Jesus is not merely a prophet, as acknowledged by Muslims, He is God in human flesh. This is precisely what Islam rejects.

The Trinitarian language is the language of the Bible, and it is essential to Christianity. Indeed, the Christian faith points to Christ and announces that we can only know the Father through the Son. Confusing the God of the Bible with Allah of the Quran is not only a mistake, it is a dangerous distortion of the Gospel of Christ."

https://billygraham.org/decision-mag...-the-same-god/

[desertdetroiter]

Meh...something about this story just doesn’t ring true. Especially the whole Muslim thing. Sounds way too convenient and highly propitious for a right wing news story.

Nah...I ain’t buying it.