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Old 04-11-2018, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by JackF View Post
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-welfare-prog/


Great news...time to trim some fat.


"Despite the strong economy, administration officials said enrollment in welfare programs remains high. The White House said in 2016, more than 16 million “able-bodied adults” were enrolled in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or food stamps."
We get it... "I got mine, you get none" May as well come out and say it!

 
Old 04-11-2018, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
The parents who produced them while on welfare are idiots. Their offspring are not my problem. I am not the village.

And yes, get a job. Hunger is a great motivator
What about people who had children when things were going well for them, and then, for whatever reason, they lost a good job and had to take a poor one, or became disabled in some way, to the point that they can't work?

In any case, even if the parents are idiots, does that mean that their children should suffer?

Is there no room in your ideology for the fact that sometimes bad things happen to good people?
 
Old 04-11-2018, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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What about people who had children when things were going well for them, and then, for whatever reason, they lost a good job and had to take a poor one, or became disabled in some way, to the point that they can't work?

In any case, even if the parents are idiots, does that mean that their children should suffer?

Is there no room in your ideology for the fact that sometimes bad things happen to good people?
They got theirs, remember. ZERO compassion towards un-privileged people. Republicans have turned into Pharisees!
 
Old 04-11-2018, 07:29 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Originally Posted by Enigma777 View Post
Let's start with Trump's swampy cabinet, their travel expenses, their wives' travel expenses, their office furniture, the Trump family travel that is costing us millions (the guy is supposed to be a billionaire--let him pick up the hundreds of thousands being paid for his sons' (who bring their wives) business travel and for Javanka's family once a month luxury vacation and for Tiffany and Marla's European travel luxury vacations.

The 'royal' Trump family spending is out of control. Having to pay for a billionaire family's lifestyle, while talking about cutting off hungry kids is possibly one of the most truly revolting things heard yet from this pathetic excuse of an administration. This is not America--it is more like Versailles before the revolution.

And Trump could stand trimming some fat himself
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Amen to that. Trump's hypocrisy is disgusting. Draining the swamp needs to start at the top.
 
Old 04-11-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Catgirl64 View Post
What about people who had children when things were going well for them, and then, for whatever reason, they lost a good job and had to take a poor one, or became disabled in some way, to the point that they can't work?

In any case, even if the parents are idiots, does that mean that their children should suffer?

Is there no room in your ideology for the fact that sometimes bad things happen to good people?
No--their philosophy is really a modernized version of the original Puritan ethic of predestination--
According to the Puritans--God rewarded those who were "right" with Him by giving them wealth and political power, and success from birth--they were chosen...

Those God didn't find "right" were ones who had poor crops, injury/illness, lost their farms/businesses---

Didn't matter if the "losers" were first in the door on Sunday---God knew they were not "right" or chosen...
And the ones who were successful worked even harder at being religious to keep in God's good graces...
They believed in the "real world" evidence of God's influence...that was their reward on Earth for being predestined for Heaven...

It is reverse engineering sort of
There was no evidence to believe it was true or accurate because how can you PROVE anything about God and his role in a person's success or failure but that was their religious philosophy and it lasted for a long time--both in Europe and in America...and justified a lot of bad behavior in the name of God's wishes...

Nowadays people might not believe so much in religious orthodoxy but they certainly believe in the us/them dichotomy of success...
 
Old 04-11-2018, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Originally Posted by Enigma777 View Post
Let's start with Trump's swampy cabinet, their travel expenses, their wives' travel expenses, their office furniture, the Trump family travel that is costing us millions (the guy is supposed to be a billionaire--let him pick up the hundreds of thousands being paid for his sons' (who bring their wives) business travel and for Javanka's family once a month luxury vacation and for Tiffany and Marla's European travel luxury vacations.

The 'royal' Trump family spending is out of control. Having to pay for a billionaire family's lifestyle, while talking about cutting off hungry kids is possibly one of the most truly revolting things heard yet from this pathetic excuse of an administration. This is not America--it is more like Versailles before the revolution.

And Trump could stand trimming some fat himself.

Maybe the French could lend us some of their wooden ox-carts? And what was that other invention they used, after Bastille Day?
 
Old 04-11-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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Originally Posted by Colorado^ View Post
Water from a faucet is even cheaper and healthier.
Not so much in Flint, MI though...
 
Old 04-11-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: London
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Can someone name a single safe, well-run, developed country that has as few safety nets as Republicans want?
 
Old 04-11-2018, 08:19 PM
 
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Can someone name a single safe, well-run, developed country that has as few safety nets as Republicans want?
There are none...
And there aren't any w/o a social conscience that ARE safe, well-run, and offer a developed infrastructure

I guess if you can live off fruit fallen from the trees by the side of the road and sleep in Palm huts and drink spring water maybe one of the Carribbean islands or Polynesian ones might suffice---so that people w/o decent jobs don't require a "safety" net..
But I don't know about the "developed" aspect

And the Republicans don't really want 0 safety nets--
They still want agricultural subsidies and tax laws that benefit the wealthy oligarchs that are their donors
They just don't want subsidies that benefit poorer people---even ones they have paid into like SS and Medicare
 
Old 04-11-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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Seems many people like this don't care about addressing poverty. They just want to return back to the days when commoners knew their place: barefoot and hungry in a factory, being damn grateful about the opportunity to risk their backs for 16 hour days, paid cents per hour by a whip-wielding boss.

Who needs public schools for kids (liberal indoctrination centers) when they can earn their keep?
Actually what they want is for all those people to just evaporate--
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