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Old 04-12-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So, would you support a referendum stripping party from the general election ballots?
Nope

Pubs trying to hide behind anonymity now.

Very amusing.

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Old 04-12-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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if you do this based on studies that have been done, the person listed first for any particular position would have a significant advantage.


you willing to put the fate of your nation, state, local community in the hands of the person listed at the top of the ballot?
That is an easy bias to overcome, simply randomize the order of the names for each individual ballot. Bam, the bias becomes white noise again.
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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In the elections, too often people vote by party rather than knowledge. However, if they were to remove the parties on the ballot and leave just the name, then people would actually have to know who they were voting for, which would lead to more informed voters (hopefully).


So, would you support a referendum stripping party from the general election ballots?
Absolutely.

I have never voted a straight ticket.

Only purpose the parties serve is to keep big $ in politics.
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:27 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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So, would you support a referendum stripping party from the general election ballots?
There would be an increase in misinformed voting if this happened.

Politicians would take advantage of this by skillfully misrepresenting their true positions on issues and tricking voters into believing that they are "non-partisan."
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:38 AM
 
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There would be an increase in misinformed voting if this happened.

Politicians would take advantage of this by skillfully misrepresenting their true positions on issues and tricking voters into believing that they are "non-partisan."
Nah, the misinformed voters are the ones who vote straight ticket every election. They become white noise under a paradigm with no parties listed.

Actually on second thought, there would be indeed more "misinformed" voters, but they would be the low information voters anyway - better for their votes to be random to allow the people who have done the research to actually know who and what they are voting for to form the main trend trend.
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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$6.5 billion was spent on the last presidential and congressional races. Just imagine how much more that number is when you add all the state elections.

That really can't be the best way to spend billions of dollars - I would love to see the money gutted from campaigns, PACS and the political parties.
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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I used to live in a very Republican area of Florida. My choice of local candidates were Republican and Independent. I do not agree with Republicans on issues. Scratch that candidate. So who is this Independent? Searched him and his views. Found him to be Republican "Lite". Scratch him too. None of the above. Gave up after a few years even bothering to check out the Independent local candidates on the ballots.

I voted for the first time in PA. last November and was very surprised to see a box which asked if you wanted to vote a straight Republican or straight Democratic ticket. Have never seen that before and have voted for over 30 years in two different states, including in NY and NYC. Thank you, PA.

No removal of parties from ballots. What are you trying to do? Trick people like those "Independent" candidates?
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: NH
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Individuals with individual ideas should be running for office because in my opinion political parties have divided the nation more than anything. People will vote based on party alone regardless of the ideas they bring to the table while others will not agree to a valid idea from someone if they happen to be affiliated with a different party. I say abolish the parties.
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Old 04-12-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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The consultants who are making a fortune running campaigns and doing the polling will never allow it to happen.

IMO, the best thing that has happened to political parties is the Russians and FB.

That was one big demonstration that our side doesn't know chit. And IMO, will bring about the end of those folks who get a salary, then a couple percent of the funds raised and another couple % points when they place the tv and radio ads. Those useless people are making out like bandits. But they have us all convinced a person can't run a campaign without them.

If all a candidate needs is a list of people who vote and that's public information. You can get the list of Rs and Ds from the state for a little bit of money. Then all you need is FB data. Maybe where they shop, what kinda car. It's all there already.
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Old 04-12-2018, 10:25 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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Municipal elections here are non-partisan. There are no political party designations by any name.

HOWEVER, it's pretty well known who supports the candidates party-wise.

I get bombarded by calls from people wondering what party the candidates are from.

It will never work.

Names are, however, listed by a lottery held every election year - not alphabetical.
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