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The knee-jerk reaction spilled over to ALL the customers at that Starbucks on that dreary Thursday afternoon? Every one of them had that knee-jerk reaction????????
Yep, just like some on here are doing the same thing without any evidence.
Appropos of nothing (and I did skip the last 20 or 30 pages of this thread) the former manager's name sounds like she works in the porn industry or as a stripper.
I'm not sure how I feel about her being doxxed, because I'm guessing she'll get death threats. I read somewhere that she had had a recent experience where she'd asked a patron to leave and got chased around the store, and that is why she simply called the police.
I have no clue if that's a load of it or not... news today seems to consist of tweets and other dubious sources of info.
i'd be surprised if that wasn't happening. the tolerant SJW crowd will make her life a living hell for the foreseeable future.
that is not tripe. not once has anyone felt the need to wait for me in order to get themselves a freakin' coffee, nor have i felt compelled to wait for them. it's coffee, not a 12-course meal for cripe's sake.
It's tripe. Whether someone felt the need or not, people often wait on their companions to show up before ordering. Whether it's coffee or a fancy meal. People wait on others every day. And they may wait to order because they feel it's good manners. They may wait because they are thinking that when their companions arrive they will discuss whether it's just a coffee or tea they'll be having, or if they are going to have more of a meal. They may wait because the other person is treating them. They may wait because that was the original plan. Whatever the reason, these two men were waiting on their friend. They weren't taking up a table that was wanted by other customers, as we can see in the video that there are other tables available. They weren't doing anything to disrupt the business. And Starbucks markets itself as a place where people can hangout for literally hours. It's not a get-in-get-your-coffee-get-out kind of place. The men were behaving exactly like millions of other Starbucks' customers.
You seem to be fine with people thinking that different rules apply to different people. It's okay for white people to sit at a table in a Starbucks without ordering anything, but it's not okay for black people.
No, not at all. That would be racist. In my earlier post I stated they must be consistent. You just seem defensive accusing others of racism for no reason. I will NOT defend these men just because they are black -that also would be racist. They were wrong and deserve no special treatment.
I'm answering your question even though you've basically surmised you are the smartest person in the room.
Have you seen the room?
I mean, honestly...
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I'm on the bolded side.
1. IF it wasn't SOP for Starbucks to allow customers to sit in their restaurants for hours on end without ordering something, then I could see the reasoning.
2. IF all of the customers were asked to order upon entrance, then I could see the reasoning.
Since neither of the above are true, my opinion remains the same as it has since I've read the facts of this event.
The men were not at fault and were unfairly treated by the manager. Now, I understand the police HAVE to respond to calls. What I don't understand is why they were arrested and jailed.
Thank you for your response
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer
What do you think about the fact that the Police Commissioner of Philadelphia who is black stated that the arrest of the men was proper? What about the fact that a black police officer was at the scene of the arrest? Also, that black police officers are prominent at every level of the Philadelphia police department?
I don't think that the fact that any of those people are black is relevant.
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Originally Posted by Pilot1
Then why did the police characterize it as a "Disturbance"?
Why do you trust the police?
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Ferguson’s approach to law enforcement both reflects and reinforces racial bias,
including stereotyping. The harms of Ferguson’s police and court practices are borne
disproportionately by African Americans, and there is evidence that this is due in part to
intentional discrimination on the basis of race.
After engaging in a thorough investigation, initiated at
the request of the City of Baltimore and BPD, the Department of Justice concludes that there is
reasonable cause to believe that BPD engages in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the
Constitution or federal law. BPD engages in a pattern or practice of:
(1) making unconstitutional stops, searches, and arrests;
(2) using enforcement strategies that produce severe and unjustified disparities in the rates of
stops, searches and arrests of African Americans;
(3) using excessive force; and
(4) retaliating against people engaging in constitutionally-protected expression.
Of COURSE NOT, that's not required according to the rules in the Race Baiting Handbook.
All that has to happen nowadays is a CLAIM with a phone video snippet and automatically it's raaaaaaaacist...
DOJ investigations?
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You're really not that dense are you? I don't see how you've not noticed the knee jerk/go-to reaction for the last couple of years has been anything the police do is automatically racist when dealing with black people or somehow wrong even if they're just doing their job...
Maybe they've lost the benefit of the doubt since, they keep getting studied and shown to be racist.
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I'm not sure how I feel about her being doxxed
You should be sure about how you feel about someone getting doxxed. It's reprehensible.
Especially considering that you're a mod for this site.
Like I said (and many posters have pointed it out) earlier, the manager overreacted. The police calling is unnecessary in my opinion. However, as a retailer, I have been told by mall leasing manager that "If somebody bother you for any reasons, call the mall security guards and they will take care of it."
I remember one time, a gentleman stayed in my store for 30 minutes without buying anything, all he did is looking at me smiling. I guess he "did nothing wrong" I called the security guard and the guard told him to leave.
There is another time, a black woman accused me of being a racist for helping the white woman who came before her. I told the black woman, "She (the white woman) came first, I will be right with you." Still, I am accused of being a racist. I call the security guard and the guard couldn't resolve the issue (of course he couldn't) I ended up giving the black woman a 20% discount and she walked away.
Was I being "racist", hell no! Is the customer always right? Duh, really? Is it worth it for me to keep on arguing? Nope. I doubt the manager tried to be a "racist" in this situation. I think the manager should have been fired because he/she is a liability to the company. Should he/she be fired for "racial profiling", well, I have my doubts.
I agree - she should be fired because she is clueless and insensitive. But you have to blame Starbucks for hiring her in the first place.
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I will NOT defend these men just because they are black -that also would be racist. They were wrong and deserve no special treatment.
