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Old 04-18-2018, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Got to love those far right tabloid sites. Just enough real news sprinkled in to make the rest of the offal smell better.
When you can't defeat logic, attack the messenger.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Authorities have asked many times for people to report anything they deem suspicious and let law enforcement check into the matter. One person's idea of suspicious is different from another person's.

The motto is "If You See Something, Say Something®"

https://www.dhs.gov/how-do-i/report-suspicious-activity
It's not unreasonable for there to be people who do not like guns and have adverse triggers from seeing them paraded around. Those people also deserve to be able to go to the park. Leave the gun home when you take the kiddies to play. If you must, wear your shirt, but as those who have been harmed by them have rights, better to just leave the guns out of the trip to the park. Parents of kids who don't live with guns do not have to have their enjoyment of public property ruined by someone with a hot button issue.

And consider that maybe someone who called police, as the guy in the tshirt had a gun showing had a very real reason to do so, maybe from some bad experience with guns or people who show them off. It's public land. Make it a safe place for everyone and leave guns in a nicely locked safe. Its fully realistic that to someone with negative encounters with them, someone flashing the tshirt AND armed IS displaying suspicious activity.

If a woman has her kids at the park and some male person insists on harassing her by being close, and not leaving when she says so, it would be called suspicious activity and if the cops were called he'd be made to leave. A park is public property and people's space should not be violated, nor should guns be flashed. Better to keep them OUT of parks, but if the gun holder just kept it unseen, and didn't wear his shirt then everyone gets to use the place.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Woman Calls Police Over Man Wearing Pro-Gun T-Shirt At Park

This woman needs some anti-anxiety medicines, desperately.



The gentleman was doing absolutely nothing wrong, and the woman called the police because she was offended by a) his t-shirt and b) the fact that he was legally carrying a firearm. Perhaps she should stay in her safe space and let the rest of the public do their thing.
When my son was a kid, someone with a gun showing would be a reason to leave. If it is a public place, then my right is to have it be safe for my child. I would not consider a gun, holstered or not and a blatent message on the shirt would present a potential danger, and would be denying my right to let my kid play in an area set aside for CHILDREN.

Change your shirt and lock up the gun and when you leave the park, I don't care, but the armed person does not get to ruin everyone else's day.

And children should not be playing where guns are about.

And its not anxiety, its being properly protective with your children. In a private place maybe all you do is leave but this is a public park and it belongs to everyone, kid and worried mom too. Maybe the guy in the shirt needs the anti anxiety pills if they need to flash deadly weapons in a space made for kids to play.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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It's not unreasonable for there to be people who do not like guns and have adverse triggers from seeing them paraded around. Those people also deserve to be able to go to the park. Leave the gun home when you take the kiddies to play. If you must, wear your shirt, but as those who have been harmed by them have rights, better to just leave the guns out of the trip to the park. Parents of kids who don't live with guns do not have to have their enjoyment of public property ruined by someone with a hot button issue.

And consider that maybe someone who called police, as the guy in the tshirt had a gun showing had a very real reason to do so, maybe from some bad experience with guns or people who show them off. It's public land. Make it a safe place for everyone and leave guns in a nicely locked safe. Its fully realistic that to someone with negative encounters with them, someone flashing the tshirt AND armed IS displaying suspicious activity.

If a woman has her kids at the park and some male person insists on harassing her by being close, and not leaving when she says so, it would be called suspicious activity and if the cops were called he'd be made to leave. A park is public property and people's space should not be violated, nor should guns be flashed. Better to keep them OUT of parks, but if the gun holder just kept it unseen, and didn't wear his shirt then everyone gets to use the place.
This guy did not bother or even speak to the woman. He had as much right to be there as she did and he did nothing illegal. You really think he should give up a right to make a crazy woman happy? I don't think so.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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It's not unreasonable for there to be people who do not like guns and have adverse triggers from seeing them paraded around. Those people also deserve to be able to go to the park. Leave the gun home when you take the kiddies to play. If you must, wear your shirt, but as those who have been harmed by them have rights, better to just leave the guns out of the trip to the park. Parents of kids who don't live with guns do not have to have their enjoyment of public property ruined by someone with a hot button issue.

And consider that maybe someone who called police, as the guy in the tshirt had a gun showing had a very real reason to do so, maybe from some bad experience with guns or people who show them off. It's public land. Make it a safe place for everyone and leave guns in a nicely locked safe. Its fully realistic that to someone with negative encounters with them, someone flashing the tshirt AND armed IS displaying suspicious activity.

If a woman has her kids at the park and some male person insists on harassing her by being close, and not leaving when she says so, it would be called suspicious activity and if the cops were called he'd be made to leave. A park is public property and people's space should not be violated, nor should guns be flashed. Better to keep them OUT of parks, but if the gun holder just kept it unseen, and didn't wear his shirt then everyone gets to use the place.
This is exactly the problem, an emotional reaction to a person who was not breaking the law, and by the mere sight of a firearm, that person must be a Villon.


Take the same person who was open caring a gun, and put a uniform on them, especially a police or security guard uniform, and suddenly that same firearm just disappears. I wonder why that is?


And for the record I am not a 100% fan of open carry. I understand the law, but I am not a big fan of it.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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It's not unreasonable for there to be people who do not like guns and have adverse triggers from seeing them paraded around. Those people also deserve to be able to go to the park. Leave the gun home when you take the kiddies to play. If you must, wear your shirt, but as those who have been harmed by them have rights, better to just leave the guns out of the trip to the park. Parents of kids who don't live with guns do not have to have their enjoyment of public property ruined by someone with a hot button issue.

And consider that maybe someone who called police, as the guy in the tshirt had a gun showing had a very real reason to do so, maybe from some bad experience with guns or people who show them off. It's public land. Make it a safe place for everyone and leave guns in a nicely locked safe. Its fully realistic that to someone with negative encounters with them, someone flashing the tshirt AND armed IS displaying suspicious activity.

If a woman has her kids at the park and some male person insists on harassing her by being close, and not leaving when she says so, it would be called suspicious activity and if the cops were called he'd be made to leave. A park is public property and people's space should not be violated, nor should guns be flashed. Better to keep them OUT of parks, but if the gun holder just kept it unseen, and didn't wear his shirt then everyone gets to use the place.
Sorry, but her irrational phobias and bigotry are no reason for others to change their actions or give up their rights.

By your logic, if someone is uncomfortable with a person wearing a burka in a public park, that person should just leave it at home, right? Or if a person is uncomfortable around black people, and had a "bad experience". According to your logic, blacks should just stay out of the park while she's around?

Sorry, no. The world doesn't work that way. This lady either has an odd phobia, or worse is simply prejudiced and bigotted. That's her problem, not anyone else's. Perhaps she needs some help from a psychiatrist, or simply some sensitivity training. Whatever the cause, it's her problem and she's the one that needs to step up and deal with it like an adult.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:10 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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It's not unreasonable for there to be people who do not like guns and have adverse triggers from seeing them paraded around. Those people also deserve to be able to go to the park. Leave the gun home when you take the kiddies to play. If you must, wear your shirt, but as those who have been harmed by them have rights, better to just leave the guns out of the trip to the park. Parents of kids who don't live with guns do not have to have their enjoyment of public property ruined by someone with a hot button issue.

And consider that maybe someone who called police, as the guy in the tshirt had a gun showing had a very real reason to do so, maybe from some bad experience with guns or people who show them off. It's public land. Make it a safe place for everyone and leave guns in a nicely locked safe. Its fully realistic that to someone with negative encounters with them, someone flashing the tshirt AND armed IS displaying suspicious activity.

If a woman has her kids at the park and some male person insists on harassing her by being close, and not leaving when she says so, it would be called suspicious activity and if the cops were called he'd be made to leave. A park is public property and people's space should not be violated, nor should guns be flashed. Better to keep them OUT of parks, but if the gun holder just kept it unseen, and didn't wear his shirt then everyone gets to use the place.
Sure. Just like survivors of 911 should feel safe to go to the park, airport, mall or walk the street without seeing people dressed like Muslims right?
Ill tell you what is really scary. Cars. Cars kill thousands and maim many more. I should be able to walk anywhere and not be terrorized by cars.

Doctors kill more people than guns. A lot more. What should we do about them?
See how silly your argument is?

The same argument was used against black people using public water fountains. People didn't like seeing it.


You can't legislate against irrational fears.
The open carry guy is not the problem. Now if she saw a guy caring a bunch of guns in a range bag and that guy is wearing body armor Im calling the cops for her.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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When you can't defeat logic, attack the messenger.
This is a fake story. You know that, right? Google it and click on a few of the links. It's the same article, nearly verbatim, over and over with the same Warrior 12 ads being served and a link to their FB page at exactly the same spot in the story.

They made this up knowing it would go viral. It is the definition of fake news targeted at a select target audience. Not surprisingly, it's the same target audience that believes everything they read from the same fake sources preceding the election.

Fool me 1,000 times, shame on Hillary, right?
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:09 AM
 
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Authorities have asked many times for people to report anything they deem suspicious and let law enforcement check into the matter. One person's idea of suspicious is different from another person's.

The motto is "If You See Something, Say Something®"

https://www.dhs.gov/how-do-i/report-suspicious-activity
This is perhaps often overlooked. Also, an investigation can possibly rule out that suspicious was wrong.
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Old 04-19-2018, 02:58 AM
 
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It's not unreasonable for there to be people who do not like guns and have adverse triggers from seeing them paraded around. Those people also deserve to be able to go to the park. Leave the gun home when you take the kiddies to play. If you must, wear your shirt, but as those who have been harmed by them have rights, better to just leave the guns out of the trip to the park. Parents of kids who don't live with guns do not have to have their enjoyment of public property ruined by someone with a hot button issue.

And consider that maybe someone who called police, as the guy in the tshirt had a gun showing had a very real reason to do so, maybe from some bad experience with guns or people who show them off. It's public land. Make it a safe place for everyone and leave guns in a nicely locked safe. Its fully realistic that to someone with negative encounters with them, someone flashing the tshirt AND armed IS displaying suspicious activity.

If a woman has her kids at the park and some male person insists on harassing her by being close, and not leaving when she says so, it would be called suspicious activity and if the cops were called he'd be made to leave. A park is public property and people's space should not be violated, nor should guns be flashed. Better to keep them OUT of parks, but if the gun holder just kept it unseen, and didn't wear his shirt then everyone gets to use the place.
i will tell you the same thing i told another poster here, get over it. chances are this guy puts his gun on everyday just like you put on your pants everyday. he is likely use to carrying it, and doing so LEGALLY. he didnt brandish the gun, or wave it around, or even pull it out of its holster. all he did was go to the park with his children, wearing his gun and the infamous t shirt, only to have some scared woman pee her panties because she read his t shirt, and she then called the cops for no reason, except for her wet panties. even the cops said the guy did NOTHING WRONG.

if people re going to get scared every time they see something they dont like, then we are going to see people wetting the panties everyday on a regular basis.
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